I am trying to make a High Voltage Capacitor (in the region of 10-12Kv)

I need to get these drawings turned into a DXF file, then find someone who can laser / water cut them.
Its 1mm Ally.
I am not sure which would be best laser or water cut. I need the edges to be as smooth as possible, as jagged spikes etc, will allow any high voltage flash overs to happen at a lower voltage.
Basicaly I expect to have to sand them all down, but obviously want to reduce the workload as much as possible.

Can anyone help, with either the DXF files (assuming thats what I need for a cutter to use) or with the actual cutting.

I recon about 10 rotors, and 22 stators and 2 end plates.

Anyone able to even give me a price?

For the curious, its a high voltage tuning capacitor for a Magnetic Loop antenna, and will be remotely turned by a very very slow motion 12v motor (2RPM) thru a 5:1 reduction gerabox.

Just so you know!

All thoughts appreciated.

Geoff


The Stator Plate

Capacitor Stator


The Rotor plate

Capacitor Rotor

The End Plate

Capacitor End Plate

does that make you an amateur?

de G0VTL

i knew geoff was one something ddx, i think


g0pys

I can draw these up for you if you havent sorted an offer yet?

Geoff did you ever get the 2d design programme to work as it saves files as DXF.?
We have a small cnc router and a micro mill but never used them on ali- always wood and plastic, also have an old Camm 2 which would do it. The finish from the machines id pretty smooth and accurate
I could probably have a look at it mid to late week apart from we haven't any ali that thin and we are a bit pushed time wise. If you can find someone else to do it then it isn't a problem
It is a pity you aren't closer as you could have come in for a bit of training and a twiddle!
atb
Mike

I can draw them and cut them for you...

Ill sort out a price for you on monday if thats not too late

cheers

Andy

You building a time machine?

Oh, it's not a Flux capacitor?




[Edited on 12/11/11 by gingerprince]

Ah Yes I am G0DDX.
Now I am retired, I am playing radio's a lot more.
(Kit Car in Summer and Radio's in Winter - Inside and Outside Hobbies, ideal for the retired to be able to play all year round)

The problem with small loop antennas is they generate several thousand volts on them, and usually in the capacitor.
Making you own is a good way to do this as you can make the size you want, rather than use what you can find or buy.

I have U2U'd Andy, and see how that goes.
I'm not in a tearing hurry, but want to crack on with the job.


Cheers

Have you got this sorted? I can do you a .dxf if you want.

Yes, andyw7de has done a fine job.

I have now assembled the parts and here is a picture of the finished Butterfly Capacitor.
It should withstand up to 12Kv, as you get a double gap with this style of capacitor, and very low losses when using it in a loop antenna. Also no connection to the rotot shaft either which can be very lossy in this application.

I havent finished the motorisation of the capacitor yet. I have a 2rpm 12v motor, and then a 6:1 reduction drive to go on that, as it needs to turn very very slowly, due to the tuning being very sharp indeed.

For the Radio Amateurs amongst us:
I knocked up a quick loop using 2.6metres of Heliax LDF450 cable (was lying about spare in the shed).
I hung it over the fan blades inside the shack, and managed to contact a mate of mine in Finland on just 5Watts of power.
It was just one S point (sig strength) below my 130ft wire which is outside. The loop is inside the building, so I am well impressed.

The antenna covers 14-30Mhz, and has a SWR of better than 1.5:1 on all amateur bands.
At 14Mhz, and using the legal power limit, the voltage across the capacitor is about 5,553 volts RMS and the resonant circulating current is 43.4 A. Not something to touch when transmitting. (this is a resonant circuit so you get massive voltages and currents when tuned)

So far I have made one mistake. I bought some good quality 6mm PVC for the end plates. Evidently I should have used polyproplyene chopping boards from Poundland, cheaper and better electrical properties.
Downside is they are only about 3mm thick and not 6mm. I used 2 x 6mm PCV plates to locate and secure the bearings which are for Skateboards. A bit OTT, but were the cheapest I could find.
Used over 80 stainless steel nuts and nearly a metre of M6 Stainless Steel studding.
SS has less iron content and less magnetic effects. Brass would be best but even more expensive!
Remember I'm a Locoster at heart.

More pics to follow when I get the motorisation sorted.
I had to make up a 6mm male round to M6 female thread adaptor today for the motor. The Myford ML7 made it a cinch, even if id screw the first one up! My ML is not in the best of health, ie its old and a bit worn. Still, its good for knocking out spacers and small parts that dont need high accuracy / tolerance etc.


Capacitor completed


Magnetic Loop Antenna

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Originally posted by wilkingj
So far I have made one mistake. I bought some good quality 6mm PVC for the end plates. Evidently I should have used polyproplyene chopping boards from Poundland, cheaper and better electrical properties.
Downside is they are only about 3mm thick and not 6mm. I used 2 x 6mm PCV plates to locate and secure the bearings which are for Skateboards. A bit OTT, but were the cheapest I could find.
Used over 80 stainless steel nuts and nearly a metre of M6 Stainless Steel studding.
SS has less iron content and less magnetic effects. Brass would be best but even more expensive!
Remember I'm a Locoster at heart.

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Hi I need a dxf file editing so I can cut it on my 3018 cnc, the bed size ix X=300mm and Y=180,
The file is for a a bed 1000X1000mm. If anyone can help me, Just email me on kerravon2018@gmail.com
and I can send you the file to look at.
Thanks in advance
Regards
Adrian

You've joined a forum, to resurrect a 13 year old thread to ask complete strangers to do something for nothing with not even an sniff of why they might want to help you.

Good luck with that - maybe try standing in the middle of your local high street and shouting the request.

Those of us who are left are a really friendly bunch, who've done loads to help each other. But your request really is pushing the boundaries of generosity way too far. Perhaps try introducing yourself, explain your project, what you're trying to do ......... generate some interest and desire to help you and someone may step up to give their time.

As this response isn't that helpful my attempt at helping is to suggest this.... download some CAD software like fusion360 and learn the software. Its not that hard as i'm finding learning how to 3d print. You'll then be able to do other stuff with your CNC.

as above, it is now reasonably simple to edit dxf files.
there are even free sites online

https://products.aspose.app/3d/editor/dxf

to add,
to be fair, he is apparently building a similar radio antenna to that in the earlier posts,
but yes a hello would have been good

No I joined the forum to both get and give help, I am a radio ham and the post might be 13 years old but the subject is very much topical in the world of radio.
My plan was, once I got this sorted I would provide other radio hams etc, with a uk source of the plates to make thier own kits up.
As the only other person to do this lives in greece and the cost of the postage to uk is mor than double the cost of the plates.

Must feel good to sit behind the keyboard and try to belittle another user over a subject you know absolutley nothing about, must be a life time achievment
for someone like you. Knob

Good day to you sir,
Thankyou for your reply, i did indeed try those links but couldnt get what I needed, However a kind gentlemen on one of the facebook groups
helped me out and not only did them for me, also taught me how to do it myself in the future. I have now bought all the mods for my cnc and
when fitted will be ready to go.
Anyway thanks once again for your help.
regards
kerravon