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scootz - 22/11/11 at 05:30 PM

So what is it (other than live!)...


ceebmoj - 22/11/11 at 05:34 PM

I have ripped every thing to flack at home for the master copy played with a Sonos system and transcode to ogg if I need a smaller copy on the go. Having said that years of loud music and cars means I doubt I can tell the differenced any more . http://vortexbox.org/ makes it all very easy and will even work as an iTunes sever if you are using apple products.

[Edited on 22/11/11 by ceebmoj]


steve m - 22/11/11 at 05:35 PM

On my own,

no f*****g interuptions !


D Beddows - 22/11/11 at 06:10 PM

Vinyl for purely nostalgic reasons..........too much sh*te is talked about music reproduction if you ask me if the tune's good who cares really


balidey - 22/11/11 at 06:16 PM

Minidisc.
I really enjoyed that format.
I'm too young to be a vinyl fan, and I get bored with the arguments from vinyl fans... change the record
I always fancied a DAT player, for no reason other than to say I have one. But I went for minidisc instead.
I don't have an MP3 player, but occasionally (very occasionally) I will put an MP3 on my phone or PC, but thats about it. if i want an album now I tend to buy, or atleast try and buy, on CD.


Agriv8 - 22/11/11 at 06:25 PM

high bit rate mp3 highest bit rate you can ripped of cd and dumped on nas at home network .

from there to phone listenning to this on phone as i type.

or PC to Amp

or to cd for car get 3 albums per cd

non system / pc dependant

regards agriv8


iank - 22/11/11 at 06:41 PM

flak is lossless compression i.e. 100% CD quality (same as wav), but with all the advantages of mp3's. Files are bigger than mp3 but smaller than wav.


britishtrident - 22/11/11 at 06:48 PM

SD card.


blakep82 - 22/11/11 at 06:51 PM

they all work if you just want to listen
for dance music, in a club, vinyl. got fed up of DJs standing there pressing play on mix they did the night before on a laptop, and getting paid for having no skill. vinyl sorts the men from the boys
in the car or at home for me, its CD, got no interest in downloading albums off the internet, I want something i can actually hold in my hand when i buy something.
if i just want to listen to a tune without having to buy it, youtube is good enough for me...

in short, never mp3


Confused but excited. - 22/11/11 at 06:53 PM

High end gear + vinyl every time.


deltron63 - 22/11/11 at 07:28 PM

I wonder how many people listen to the " sound of the music " rather than the music it's self ?
I know i did for many years, now i listen on anything.


Ninehigh - 22/11/11 at 07:28 PM

I'll go for MP3 because it's good enough for what I do. I have no high-end stuff and it's clear enough through my car..


scootz - 22/11/11 at 07:34 PM

I'm certainly not an audiophile, but I want to hear everything that was intended to be heard!


blakep82 - 22/11/11 at 07:39 PM

CD is your best bet then
all the others are compressed, so they lack something. when i was a college, the lecturer did a test with us between CD and minidisc. minidisc is compressed so that it removes all the stuff you can't hear, but that stuff also affects the stuff you CAN hear, so its never going to be the same.
this was when MP3 was new really, so we didn't do it with MP3


JoelP - 22/11/11 at 08:29 PM

cd for me, though i get tired of having 30 cds falling around the van.


iank - 22/11/11 at 09:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
CD is your best bet then
all the others are compressed, so they lack something. when i was a college, the lecturer did a test with us between CD and minidisc. minidisc is compressed so that it removes all the stuff you can't hear, but that stuff also affects the stuff you CAN hear, so its never going to be the same.
this was when MP3 was new really, so we didn't do it with MP3


Wav isn't compressed, it's just a computer file with every bit on the CD, problem over mp3's are they are huge.
Flak is compressed but no bits are lost so the files are smaller, but it's still as perfect as the CD.


nick205 - 22/11/11 at 09:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by steve m
On my own,

no f*****g interuptions !



Aint that the damned truth of it

Used to spend hours just me and my hifi; vinyl and CD both have their merits. CDs/LPs are all packed under the stairs along with the hifi

The car is the only place I get to listen on my own any more and unless you're going to spend big money on a decent system it's limited quality.

Now have all the CDs ripped to WMA loss less format on a NAS and stream to the TV in the lounge and mini hifi in the kitchen. Files converted to smaller MP3 files for phone listening on the move and piled on a few CDs for the car.


Simon - 22/11/11 at 09:37 PM

8 track, though having only listened to one about 30 years ago, posterity may make me think it was better than it actually was

Otherwise MP3 as it cuts out "i" products

ATB

Simon


r1_pete - 22/11/11 at 09:52 PM

Early 60s Chantal Meteor jukebox and 45s


theduck - 22/11/11 at 10:05 PM

Vinyl for me and I'm only young lol. Analogue gives you something digital can't.


HowardB - 22/11/11 at 10:21 PM

cd, hifi in the cellar so it cut's all the extra unwanted rubbish out. Total immersion without stressing the neighbours or the missus.


SteveWalker - 22/11/11 at 11:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by steve m
On my own,

no f*****g interuptions !


Definitely - although until the kids are a bit older, I can't even set my system up again or it'll get wrecked.

Currently listening to any of my Sansa Clip+ / car radio / Garmin Satnav via car stereo / Ancient Sharp portable stereo.

When I can get set up again, I'll revert to my Arcam Alpha 5+ CD player, Velleman pre-amp, Velleman valve amp and Mission 752 speakers - 7 bloody years it's been in storage and our youngest is only 3


happylemon666 - 22/11/11 at 11:37 PM

cd for me. On my hi-end mostly US solid state (Theta & Krell) hi-fi on floating rack (Townsend audio) and Kef Reference speakers (to be replaced with home design when I get around to it).

But mostly it's as already stated - on my own and uninterrupted, and if you're enjoying what you're listening too, doesn't really matter that much. I use wma and mp3 on my little player thingy to play through the tape deck in the car!


morcus - 23/11/11 at 03:57 AM

I'm a vinyl man for a number of reasons. The sound is better, but that isn't the most important thing by a long way, The best thing about vinyl is the bits that go with it, the armoured boxes the LP's live in, the pictures and sleave notes that are big enough to see and read propperly, the hunt for old stuff and the excitment of getting new stuff in the post, the fine tuning of all the dials to make it just right, having an album on 4 (Or 6 or 8 or...) sides and all that stuff.

For the car, cassette was better but CD is acceptable. I don't like downloading music, I like buying a new record and hearing it on the way home from town. I personally think CD is too delicate for the car as I've had discs damaged by the machine due to pot holes, and the difficulty of changing a CD on the move without touching the shiny side (Even as a passenger) means cassette would be my first choice, that and the fun of making cassettes for the car which isn't quite the same with CD, it took more skill.

'DJs' who can't spin disks should be shot.


v8kid - 23/11/11 at 07:22 AM

Don't bother with recorded stuff. Get a life and just go listen live - even middling bands sound great by comparison to recorded stuff and you also benifit fron the social interaction.
Anyhow who has the time to waste listening to cd's et al when you could be achieving something of your own?

If you must it's the radio for me as the best of a poor compromise

cheers!


scudderfish - 23/11/11 at 09:10 AM

Makes no difference to me, my ears are f*cked.


foskid - 23/11/11 at 12:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
Makes no difference to me, my ears are f*cked.


Same with mine, been hanging around jet engines too long.

But I voted cd for the convenience of it.


alistairolsen - 23/11/11 at 01:04 PM

High quality MP3 for convenience on phones or in the car where the quality isn't so much of an issue (I challenge anyone to pick the difference between CD and MP3 on a decent stereo in a small car.)

CD at home.

I have no time for vinyl whatsoever tbh, sure it's fun and the whole being-a-total-pain-in-the-arse adds some occasion like driving an old car, but on a technical level, no.

Tapes shouldnt still exist, there was little excuse for the quality in 1995 and certainly none now!


FASTdan - 23/11/11 at 02:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen

Tapes shouldnt still exist, there was little excuse for the quality in 1995 and certainly none now!


Yep!

IMO minidisc should have been THE format of the 90's, far better/more practical than CD for the average listener. CD's in a car do my head in, too big, too fragile etc. For most of the noughties I had 30+ minidiscs slewing around in a single door pocket in my XR2 (happy days), most without cases. They ALL still play spot on, never had one failure.

Then came the ipod - handy, small etc but remembering to take it with me was half the problem. Now I'm using my HTC phone with straight forward MP3's purely for convenience but it sounds pretty good on the ford/sony system in my mondeo. Still use the ipod for running/cycling but itunes does my head in so it rarely gets updated these days.


ken555 - 23/11/11 at 02:58 PM


twybrow - 23/11/11 at 04:19 PM

Define 'best'?! Easiest to plat? Highest audio quality? Most available?

MP3 - very easy to get hold of. Can be ripped onto a CD, or added to your phone/iPod. Quality is more than enough for most people,a nd certainly enough to listen in a car.
CD - I still like them, but they are a pain to store, and they all degrade over time.
Tape - no no no. It wasn't good when it was modern. Now, it is simply awful! What are the redeeming features?!
Vinyl - I like them for mixing, but then modern DJs can dop much the same with MP2 mixers, or CD mixers... Otherwise, I cant see the appeal. They just have more background noise - you can't tell me the recording artist wanted you to really appreciate the background hiss you get?!
Live - yes please, but only when the sound system is good. I saw a well known group play live a few years back, and I walked out half way through, as the audio quality was so poor you could not distinguish the words bing sung!


02GF74 - 23/11/11 at 04:37 PM

for convenience I have sony player (Atrac format) that fits into a small pocket bit for serious lisening, it is CDs. CDs also for the car, rarely do they jump and not have one trashed by the player.

I have lots of vinyl and should really get the Linn LP12 plugged in, as well as sorting out the arm for the Michel Gyro .............