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Diane Abbott
scootz - 5/1/12 at 12:44 PM

For those who don't know her... she's a Labour front-bench MP. She's black.

She recently tweeted "white people love playing divide-and-rule".

I have no doubt whatsoever that had a white MP made a similar statement about "black people", then they would have been sacked the minute it hit the news.

Will she!?


blue2cv - 5/1/12 at 12:55 PM

What you mean the same rules for us.


mookaloid - 5/1/12 at 12:56 PM

There is so much one could say about that but really it's just so disappointing - even more so if she isn't punished for it.


scootz - 5/1/12 at 12:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blue2cv
What you mean the same rules for us.


?


blue2cv - 5/1/12 at 01:00 PM

It means you say something about one of our ethic chums and see if you get away with it


scootz - 5/1/12 at 01:04 PM

TBH, I'm not particularly offended by what she said... in fact, I'd prefer it if more folk occupying positions of powers spoke their mind so we could find out exactly what they're all about.

What actually bothers me here is the obvious imbalance to 'societal rules'. One group of people are allowed to say things that another group of people can't. It's utter bollox and doing my nut in!


lewis - 5/1/12 at 01:04 PM

I think its very say that in this day and age there are some people who still think of 'them and us' especially someone in her position


scootz - 5/1/12 at 01:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blue2cv
It means you say something about one of our ethic chums and see if you get away with it


Ah!


bobinspain - 5/1/12 at 01:10 PM

Already posted my thoughts to Toby Young's article in the D.Telegraph this a.m.

Along the lines of "Fat, sweaty, bigoted, stupid, racist, socialist hypocrite." Strong message to follow---and I didn't mention the 'b' word once!


blue2cv - 5/1/12 at 01:12 PM

It made sense to me when i wrote it lol, but then who knows whats going on in my head,, cant be sane, i work on 2cvs


designer - 5/1/12 at 01:18 PM

quote:

I have no doubt whatsoever that had a white MP made a similar statement about "black people", then they would have been sacked the minute it hit the news.



Seconded.

And she would have been the first in line to comment and demand a resignation!


matt_gsxr - 5/1/12 at 01:19 PM

I think she isn't too bad.

Don't care about tweet stuff.


wylliezx9r - 5/1/12 at 01:20 PM

I read about it earlier, couldn't finish the article I was that disgusted.

I think back to the days I was in the airforce, I was called Taff, Welshy etc, by todays standards shouldnt I be going back and sueing everyone. Not that I would want to.

Kids cant even sing baa baa black sheep in schools anymore what an absolute shambles our society has become.

But if this political correctness is how society is now operating she should be picking up her P45 about now........I doubt she will be though.


r1_pete - 5/1/12 at 02:03 PM

Unfortunately discrimination only works one way, in the UK, that is only the majority can be accused of discrimination against the minority, unfortunately it doesnt cut it the other way...

and I agree there would have been uproar if anyone had said it the other way around, look at the fuss a few years ago with that gobby big brother contentant and Shilpa Shelty.....


Rod Ends - 5/1/12 at 02:15 PM

She's a fat fool:

MP Diane Abbott calls for Commons debate on child obese crisis after visit to East End


ali f27 - 5/1/12 at 02:22 PM

IT,S just what i call Jordon,s tits syndrome looking for publicty gets people talking gets on tv helps flagging clebs politicians get back in public eye she will probs be with ant and dec next in jungle


bobinspain - 5/1/12 at 02:23 PM

This latest, in a long line of gaffes exposes Abbott's unsuitability to be a representative of the people,
or to be in a position of influence.

There's no doubt that the woman has made a career of the fact that she was born black.
She is a vacuuous, stupid condescending hypocrite, so is ideally qualified to be a labour M.P.

There is something horribly wrong with British society, when we see racism as a one-way ticket.
The Lawrence affair was dreadfully badly (dishonestly?) handled by the Met, of that, there's no doubt.
The justice meted out to the two perpetrators was well deserved, and I for one hope the rest involved
are indicted and tried.

What I find objectionable it that supposedly sane people are blogging that since 'blacks' get away with
all kinds of nefarious activity by (in no small measure), playing the 'race card', then Dobson and Norris
were unfaily treated in being persued as they were. Some commentators even bad-mouthed the repeal
of the double jeapardy law, when it's been a proven force for good in the fight against wrong-doers
and career criminals.

All criminals, regardless of colour should be persued and punished. The inordinate publicity, manpower,
incompetence and injustice on display in the Lawrence case is an example of what happens when we get it wrong.

Unless 'colour prejudice' (racism) works both ways, we'll end up with handing the keys of asylum to the
lunatics. The likes of Abbott will be vying for the position of 'chief inmate.'


whitestu - 5/1/12 at 02:33 PM

God help black people if she is arguing their case!


jossey - 5/1/12 at 02:33 PM

are you all idiots.

you do know that racism is one way just white to black.

There is no such thing as racism from black to white.

This is clear when you look at average sentences of white people assaulting black people is hugely longer time in jail then the opposite.

Its a shame really as I wont tollerate any racism in my work from any of my staff no matter the colour, race or anything......


ali f27 - 5/1/12 at 02:41 PM

It,S all a ploy like i said got you all talking her in the press tv etc mind could have been worse she might have got her tits out
Dont worry Edwina curry ruined many egg farmers and humped John Major and she still vanished


BenB - 5/1/12 at 03:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ali f27
It,S all a ploy like i said got you all talking her in the press tv etc mind could have been worse she might have got her tits out
Dont worry Edwina curry ruined many egg farmers and humped John Major and she still vanished


You obviously didn't watch Strictly this year

Read the whole tweet. The ironic thing is that she was critisizing the press for grouping the "black community" together but in doing so talk about the "white community" and so did the thing she was so critical of. She tweeted "White people love playing 'divide & rule' We should not play their game". By doing which she did start playing "their game" which I actually believe isn't played, except now by her.

Doh!

Anyway, people confuse racism with discrimination against a minority. Racism is a two way street. Discrimination against a minority clearly can only be one way.

What she's really done of course is what people have done for a long time. People who feel they are being discriminated against are often discriminatory themselves. E.g. quite a lot of rabid feminisits are extremely sexist on the grounds of feeling sexually discriminated.

So the best thing to do to prevent falling into the trap she has is to ignore her. Peace out


ali f27 - 5/1/12 at 04:06 PM

I take your point i did watch strictly was nice to see her thrown off early
The press and politicians all try to devide and rule 10s of millions of muslims live peacefully in the world and a handfull of nut cases get them a bad name a murdering criminal is a murdering criminal what ever colour creed or religion
I used to like the way Dave Allen finished his show with the words may your god go with you.


Peteff - 5/1/12 at 04:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ali f27I used to like the way Dave Allen finished his show with the words may your god go with you.


I think anyone who needs an imaginary entity to justify their decision making needs to evaluate their existence. How did the thread get from colour to religion in such a short space?


Chippy - 5/1/12 at 04:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jossey
are you all idiots.
you do know that racism is one way just white to black.
There is no such thing as racism from black to white.
This is clear when you look at average sentences of white people assaulting black people is hugely longer time in jail then the opposite.
Its a shame really as I wont tollerate any racism in my work from any of my staff no matter the colour, race or anything......


The very first case that came befors the Race Relations Board was a White man against his Black employers, he won!
Doesn't seem that way now, :-( Cheers Ray


gottabedone - 5/1/12 at 05:42 PM

"white people love playing divide-and-rule" and "I understand people have interpreted my comments as making generalisations about white people. I do not believe in doing that"

..........................two very impressive comments from someone who is a role model in a very influential position of authority.


There is obviously a big difference between what she says and what her statement writing advisers normally pump out into the press.
I can't see that anybody with a level head (not politically biased in the black/white issue) would see anything constructive in the bilge that this individual pumps out.

Steve


scootz - 5/1/12 at 06:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
quote:
Originally posted by ali f27I used to like the way Dave Allen finished his show with the words may your god go with you.


I think anyone who needs an imaginary entity to justify their decision making needs to evaluate their existence. How did the thread get from colour to religion in such a short space?


Let's wait and see if 'Godwins Law' will come into effect!


T66 - 5/1/12 at 06:41 PM

Diane Abbott - words I would write here would get me in trouble.


Suppressed by new labour while they were in power, bought her silence, thats how much cred she has. Puppet.


Anti royal , anti police and by the sound of it not a fan of white folk.



Let's hope she get sacked. However I doubt it.

[Edited on 5/1/12 by T66]


bobinspain - 5/1/12 at 06:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
quote:
Originally posted by ali f27I used to like the way Dave Allen finished his show with the words may your god go with you.


I think anyone who needs an imaginary entity to justify their decision making needs to evaluate their existence. How did the thread get from colour to religion in such a short space?


Let's wait and see if 'Godwins Law' will come into effect!




'Reductio ad Hitlerium' love it Scott. I'd come across it previously, but couldn't bring it to mind.
Must've been when Hitchen's used 'Pascal's wager' in 'Why God is Not Great' that I did some browsing.


motorcycle_mayhem - 5/1/12 at 06:54 PM

OK, so I'm desensitized to all the abnormalies (abhorencies). It's never 'news' that nepotism, corruption and immorality are discovered in political and authoritian bodies. Greed rules, absolutely, in all its mainy focuses.

But yes, I agree with he who wishes me to Abide, on his point.

Tune into Radio One (remove any neurons you have 1st) sometimes in the evening. Black Rappers will frequently use words like 'N*****r' in their lyrics, which if others were to imitate would be regarded as a subject for capital punishment (police, politicians and the public sector excluded - terms and conditions apply).

One day, the System will collapse.


TimC - 5/1/12 at 07:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by wylliezx9r
I think back to the days I was in the airforce, I was called Taff, Welshy etc, by todays standards shouldnt I be going back and sueing everyone.


Pipe-down sheep sh**ger!


Strontium Dog - 5/1/12 at 07:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by T66
Diane Abbott - words I would write here would get me in trouble.

Anti royal , anti police and by the sound of it not a fan of white folk.

[Edited on 5/1/12 by T66]




So not all bad then!


Ninehigh - 5/1/12 at 07:13 PM

I love playing Divide and Rule, especially when I have my +2 sword of political injustice and my +2d10 armour of persecution, or is that a different game?

I love pulling the race card, especially when the person on the other side is also white (and I've used both sides there, saying it's because I'm black AND white )

As for the N word, I really think they should make a decision, if it's racist don't say it, if it's ok it's ok for EVERYONE. Otherwise I think all us crackers and honkys should rise up and take our words back! Fight the power!


T66 - 5/1/12 at 07:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Strontium Dog
quote:
Originally posted by T66
Diane Abbott - words I would write here would get me in trouble.

Anti royal , anti police and by the sound of it not a fan of white folk.

[Edited on 5/1/12 by T66]




So not all bad then!





Well Im afraid Im hoisting my Union Jack here, sooner have Queeny & Phil than someone like Berlesconi or Blair - ego driven wankers


As for the Police - I can call them, you can call them, anyone can call them, Just pause for a second and imagine 24 hours in the UK without the Police....


And then ask where you would sooner be. Queen and country forever !