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Abu Qutada
Jon Ison - 13/2/12 at 06:37 PM

Should he be deported ?

scootz - 13/2/12 at 06:40 PM

In a box!

Wadders - 13/2/12 at 06:40 PM

I clicked 'Yes' only because the option i would have chosen is not available....



Originally posted by Jon Ison
Should he be deported ?

steve m - 13/2/12 at 06:41 PM

I put yes, various reasons, !

r1_pete - 13/2/12 at 06:55 PM

Yes ***k the European court, thats what the rest of Europe would do.

Ben_Copeland - 13/2/12 at 06:58 PM

Yes, why should we have to pay to keep him. Make him walk/swim it all the way back

hootsno1 - 13/2/12 at 07:02 PM

I say get rid of them all

[Edited on 13/2/12 by hootsno1]

StevieB - 13/2/12 at 07:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
In a box!


I put no for the same reason, but I wouldn't waste the cost of a box...

blakep82 - 13/2/12 at 07:10 PM

erm, i think no, because if he's here, we can keep a closer eye on him... at least until we lose him in a few weeks

steve m - 13/2/12 at 07:14 PM

Blake, mmm, that is a good idea !

austin man - 13/2/12 at 07:23 PM

let him swim home with a weight round his waist and a bit of lead in the back of his head

snakebelly - 13/2/12 at 07:24 PM

thye should post him from jail to his house, that would sort the issue, hed never turn up!

rusty nuts - 13/2/12 at 08:37 PM

If Brussels won't let him be deported to Jordan send him to Brussels! How did he lose his hand??

Peteff - 13/2/12 at 08:42 PM

Jordan has promised him a fair trial, she'll tackle anything these days for a bit of cash

omega 24 v6 - 13/2/12 at 08:44 PM

I voted no because he should be publicly doused in acid so we can all watch him disolve away.

Sorry if it looks like I'm sitting on the fence.

ed1max - 13/2/12 at 08:48 PM

I would export him by means of a cannon!

Ninehigh - 13/2/12 at 08:49 PM

Why would we want to deport him?

snakebelly - 13/2/12 at 09:56 PM

why on earth would we not?

blakep82 - 13/2/12 at 10:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by snakebelly
why on earth would we not?


i like i said, if he's here, we've got more chance of knowing what he's up to!

jeffw - 13/2/12 at 10:26 PM

Lots of room in the Falklands (or South Georgia). And if the Argies invade he is their problem....

Chippy - 13/2/12 at 11:53 PM

One "NO", and one "DONT CARE", thats pitiful. The guy is a threat to the people of this country, and will continue to be so as long as he is breathing. I think that Jordan still has the death penalty, so let them give him a fair trial, and then shoot him, or hang him, whatever. IMHO Ray

Ninehigh - 14/2/12 at 06:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by snakebelly
why on earth would we not?


Would you be next? Who is this guy and why do we care?

morcus - 14/2/12 at 06:19 AM

I thought Jordan having the death penalty is why we weren't deporting him as its illegal to deport anyone from an EU Member state to stand trial in a place with capital punishment.

I voted Don't care as what I actually think is more complex than the options, but I don't think sending him to Jordan would solve anything, as others have said, he's easier to monitor if we know where he is.

Peteff - 14/2/12 at 09:10 AM

It's costing £10,000 a week to "protect" him, get rid quick and spend the money on something useful.

jollygreengiant - 14/2/12 at 09:28 AM

No, don't deport him, just let him win an all expenses paid holiday cruise (into international waters) for a week.














Then tell the Jordanians the exact posittion that the 'ship' will be loitering in for 'the week' and as they say in that area 'imshalla'.


JD


or better still tell the gulf pirates where he will be and let them have access to a 'suitable' boat so that they may work their magic.


scootz - 14/2/12 at 09:41 AM

I bet Mossad would know what to do with him!

kendo - 14/2/12 at 09:46 AM

I just don't get how the government can say they are trying hard to deport him.

It's really very easy.

Step 1 - Grow a pair of testicles

Step 2 - Don't listen to Euro monkeys

Step 3 - Take undesireable to airport

Step 4 - Put undesireable on aeroplane

Step 5 - Let aeroplane take off

Step 6 - do not let an aeroplane carrying undesirable land in this country.

Step 7 - Pat self on back for job well done.

Ninehigh - 14/2/12 at 10:22 AM

Someone might answer me eventually

Chippy - 14/2/12 at 11:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by snakebelly
why on earth would we not?

Would you be next? Who is this guy and why do we care?


Don't quite understand the comment, (Would you be next?). But the answer to your other bit is in the post just at the head of this page. Cheers Ray

britishtrident - 14/2/12 at 12:00 PM

The guy is a hate machine propaganda machine who wants to drag the world back to the stoneage but the problem with putting evil rats like that in front of a firing squad is when to stop before you know it George Galloway, Tommy Sheriden then certain members of the royal family get the bullet ,


[Edited on 14/2/12 by britishtrident]

[Edited on 14/2/12 by britishtrident]

Irony - 14/2/12 at 12:13 PM

Some people just want to watch the world burn. He's one of them. Stick him on a plane back to his homeland and forget him. This situation should have never reached the media in the first place because it shouldn't be a issue. Get rid, no fuss, no problem, minimum cost.

Irony - 14/2/12 at 12:14 PM

Shooting him probably breaks some sort of Health & Safety regulations anyway - so thats out.

britishtrident - 14/2/12 at 01:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Irony
Shooting him probably breaks some sort of Health & Safety regulations anyway - so thats out.



The bang could damage his hearing.

omega 24 v6 - 14/2/12 at 06:50 PM

Hey chippy I voted no
See my post for the reason.
This guy sould be gone OK but not just from this country or even this planet.

theconrodkid - 14/2/12 at 07:09 PM

looks like the powers that be are listnening and have arranged for his return to Jordan.....i wait with baited breath
oh and anyone want to buy grand stand seats to wave him off at the airport?

Ninehigh - 14/2/12 at 07:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by snakebelly
why on earth would we not?

Would you be next? Who is this guy and why do we care?


Don't quite understand the comment, (Would you be next?). But the answer to your other bit is in the post just at the head of this page. Cheers Ray


To begin with I thought Abu Qutada was a place... Still no idea what he's done though.

You'd think anyone in any country that gets convicted of a "prison-able" crime would be out on their ear. If it's not safe to go back then be-f'kin-have!

britishtrident - 14/2/12 at 07:35 PM

Irony !

The death penalty is usually regard as an essential part of Islamic Sharia law which this scum claims to be a proponent of, so on what grounds could he object to being deported to an Arab country with the death penalty ??

JoelP - 14/2/12 at 07:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by snakebelly
why on earth would we not?

Would you be next? Who is this guy and why do we care?


Don't quite understand the comment, (Would you be next?). But the answer to your other bit is in the post just at the head of this page. Cheers Ray


To begin with I thought Abu Qutada was a place... Still no idea what he's done though.

You'd think anyone in any country that gets convicted of a "prison-able" crime would be out on their ear. If it's not safe to go back then be-f'kin-have!


ISTR he has been convicted in his absense of some serious crimes in Jordan. The reason he hasnt been deported is that part of the case against him might have come from torturing his co defendants. Im sure he will be off as soon as a suitable understanding can be reached with Jordan.

He's better in a foreign prison than here costing us money.

bobinspain - 14/2/12 at 08:28 PM

JoelP

That's the whole point of this farrago, we came to an accord with the Jordanians that neither Quatada nor any witnesses in his trial would be subject to torture. Unfortunately, that wasn't good enough for the ECHR. They decreed we shouldn't repatriate him for his own safety as it was against his human rights.

Frankly, when the rights and safety of UK citizens are at stake and are jeapardised by someone who entered the UK illegally in the first place, and that same person vows to commit attrocities against UK citizens, then it's a no-brainer.

We do as the French and Italians do and say bollo**s to the ECHR and do as we wish. What is the worst that can happen? The answer is a 'censure' by the ECHR. A written 'slap on the wrist.'

This stuff makes me incandescent with anger.

[Edited on 14/2/12 by bobinspain]

hillbillyracer - 14/2/12 at 08:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
Jordan has promised him a fair trial, she'll tackle anything these days for a bit of cash



I've had a crap day & this has made me smile muchly, thankyou!

Chippy - 14/2/12 at 10:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by omega 24 v6
Hey chippy I voted no
See my post for the reason.
This guy sould be gone OK but not just from this country or even this planet.


I understand your sentiment, BUT it just aint going to happen, well at least not in this mamby pamby country, so the next best thing is to send him somewhere where it will happen, hopefully. Regards Ray

Ninehigh - 15/2/12 at 06:46 AM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by snakebelly
why on earth would we not?

Would you be next? Who is this guy and why do we care?


Don't quite understand the comment, (Would you be next?). But the answer to your other bit is in the post just at the head of this page. Cheers Ray


To begin with I thought Abu Qutada was a place... Still no idea what he's done though.

You'd think anyone in any country that gets convicted of a "prison-able" crime would be out on their ear. If it's not safe to go back then be-f'kin-have!


ISTR he has been convicted in his absense of some serious crimes in Jordan. The reason he hasnt been deported is that part of the case against him might have come from torturing his co defendants. Im sure he will be off as soon as a suitable understanding can be reached with Jordan.

He's better in a foreign prison than here costing us money.


Ah, well if that's the case it's not deportation it's extradition. In which case we have no reason to ship him off except to be nice to the other country

bobinspain - 15/2/12 at 08:49 AM

quote:
Originally posted by bobinspain
JoelP

That's the whole point of this farrago, we came to an accord with the Jordanians that neither Quatada nor any witnesses in his trial would be subject to torture. Unfortunately, that wasn't good enough for the ECHR. They decreed we shouldn't repatriate him for his own safety as it was against his human rights.

Frankly, when the rights and safety of UK citizens are at stake and are jeapardised by someone who entered the UK illegally in the first place, and that same person vows to commit attrocities against UK citizens, then it's a no-brainer.

We do as the French and Italians do and say bollo**s to the ECHR and do as we wish. What is the worst that can happen? The answer is a 'censure' by the ECHR. A written 'slap on the wrist.'

This stuff makes me incandescent with anger.





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9082723/Pressure-mounts-on-David-Cameron-to-defy-Europe-over-Abu-Qatada.html

From today's D. Telegraph. It would seem the idea's catching on.