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40inches - 18/9/12 at 12:49 PM

When I had finished repairing customers Auto washer, she asked me if I could repair the outside lighting circuit, it kept tripping the main circuit breaker apparently!
I declined

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And yes! that is a standard 30amp junction box in the second photo!

computid - 18/9/12 at 01:01 PM

Oh good lord that is dreadful!

Who the hell installed that?!!?!

40inches - 18/9/12 at 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by computid
Oh good lord that is dreadful!

Who the hell installed that?!!?!

The Husband, bit of a DIY wiz apparently! All the wiring is clipped to the wall, all the way to the bottom of the garden, and rendered over, without any sort of protection.

Daddylonglegs - 18/9/12 at 01:15 PM

Chuffin 'Ell!!!

ashg - 18/9/12 at 02:20 PM

and this is why we now have part p and 17th edition unfortunately it cant stop muppets doing it for themselves but at least it stops them doing it as a job.

[Edited on 18/9/2012 by ashg]

Agriv8 - 18/9/12 at 02:29 PM

Shocking,

suprised the installer has not joined the Ranks for the 'Darwin Awards' only by luck i suspect.

regards

Agriv8

Mr Whippy - 18/9/12 at 02:46 PM

fix the render it will be fine, just wear rubber boots

bi22le - 18/9/12 at 05:15 PM

Does he do part time electrical work in the Canary Islands? Them guys are the artists of p1$$ poor wiring!

Xtreme Kermit - 18/9/12 at 06:33 PM

Took me a few looks to figure out the second picture...

vanepico - 18/9/12 at 07:01 PM

Anyone that the IP rating means nothing to should never ever touch electricals!

whitestu - 18/9/12 at 07:07 PM

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All the wiring is clipped to the wall, all the way to the bottom of the garden, and rendered over, without any sort of protection.

The guy obviously doesn't know what he is doing but Twin and earth has been used outside for years without protection - in fact I think said in the regs prior to 17th edition that it was OK.

Peteff - 18/9/12 at 07:10 PM

Take the lid off the junction box and fill it with mastic.

AdrianH - 18/9/12 at 07:17 PM

This is a bit like my house! I have to say the wiring is not down to me but I find the odd problem left over from the previous do-it-yourself er.

Anything switched on in the garage is tripping the house RCD, sometimes I can get the lights to work sometimes not. I think there is leakage between neutral and earth which is tripping the RCD when a load is switched on in the garage. I have found all junctions, checked all sockets on the circuit looking for anything that would cause it.

The garage is separate from the house. The consumer unit in the downstairs front small wash room. It has 80 Amp breakers RCD type on the mains in. Then there is a 20 Amp breaker feeding a single twin and earth that goes up in the cavity void to the loft, there is goes over the peak of the loft internally and down to the rear side corner in the loft. Then a round rose type connection to another twin and earth that drops down the cavity down the back of the house.

A cable comes out of the brickwork in approx 3/4 inch plastic and goes underground to the garage. Next to this cable is a external mains socket.

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The above cable exit from the house had me thinking a bit more. I emptied kitchen cupboards and looked down the back of units to find a junction box, cover anything where the cable from the loft has been joined to the external cable and this external socket and nothing has been found. So I could not decide how the joint has been made. looking closer at the mortar it dawned on me that within the cavity must be a piece of chock block connecting everything up.

The cavity had blown insulation put in a few years ago.

I will have to remove the brick to see what I find internally when the weather stays dry for a few hours.

Adrian

vanepico - 18/9/12 at 07:19 PM

Having seen this, the power to our back garage is through a single decomposing mains wire and it still seems fine, now that I think about it though, it is probably time to change it! It was there before my parents moved in so blame the previous people!

emwmarine - 18/9/12 at 07:23 PM

Have you been taking photos of my house and DIY?

Did a few jobs early on in the marriage which convinced that we need a man in to even put up a curtain rail. Been very very useful tactic.

Nobody has twigged that I can build cars but not do house DIY. It was mentioned once and I mumbled some jargon about different skill sets.

mangogrooveworkshop - 18/9/12 at 07:31 PM

Ive seen some scary stuff like that in the uk

40inches - 18/9/12 at 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by whitestu

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All the wiring is clipped to the wall, all the way to the bottom of the garden, and rendered over, without any sort of protection.

The guy obviously doesn't know what he is doing but Twin and earth has been used outside for years without protection - in fact I think said in the regs prior to 17th edition that it was OK.

Not really a problem clipping the wire to the surface, it's the covering it with rendering that's the problem.
I fitted a Tumble drier vent to a house a couple of years ago, that had recently been rendered, and cut through the mains supply to the garage

on looking round the side of the house, I could see the cable, a gas pipe and the phone cable emerging from beneath the render. The hairs stood up on the back of my neck.

Confused but excited. - 18/9/12 at 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by ashg
and this is why we now have part p and 17th edition unfortunately it cant stop muppets doing it for themselves but at least it stops them doing it as a job.

[Edited on 18/9/2012 by ashg]

Why does it? Non of the other editions stopped cowboys.

I remember going to a major installation in a night club that had all the connections done with connector block. not a JB in sight. This was on a Ł300K job, not an outside light! Coucil inspector gave the owners 30 days to rectify (ie; total re-wire) or close.

Another NIC IEC approved contractor, installed 2x 1Kw bass bins with bell wire in a pub in Southport. The subsequent fire was interesting.

The Flintlock in Liverpool burned down because MANWEB's main fuses were over-rated and the meters caught fire. never seen that before. The interesting thing about that was, the fire brigade called out a guy from MANWEB as it was obvious from the burn marks on the wall, that the fire started at the meters. Shortly after he arrived, he disappeared and so did the fuses that he had removed "To make it all safe".