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Help with UPVC door handle
russbost - 24/5/18 at 08:48 AM

I have to replace a UPVC door handle set, front door, inner & outer handles as the thread has stripped from one of the screw locations

They are a really weird size & setup

Overall length width of the casing is 205 x 30

Locating screw centres are 164mm (poss 163 or 165)

The operating handles are offset, ie one is higher than the other 62pz one side, 92PZ the other

I cannot find anything that matches anywhere, I can find handles with the right offset 62 & 92PZ but they are longer

Q is this, either, does anyone know what I've got & where I can replace

OR if I replace with a longer handle set, how likely is it that if I try to redrill holes for the new screw positions they will foul parts of locking mechanism - I don't really want to have to strip all the locking mechanism out to find out

Any advice welcome!


nick205 - 24/5/18 at 09:12 AM

Recently had to replace a couple of closing mechanisms on some UPVC windows. Easy enough to strip out, but same as you a bugger to find like for like replacements. I ended up going back to the company that fitted the windows who were able to supply the correct (OEM) mechanisms.

Do you know either who manufactured or fitted the door?

They may be the people to ask for spares!


watsonpj - 24/5/18 at 09:38 AM

Russ have you tried taking the parts to dg supplying on the 127 Southend. I have some old units and they have been able to supply equivalent parts but also give advice on how to rework.
Pete


russbost - 24/5/18 at 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by nick205
Recently had to replace a couple of closing mechanisms on some UPVC windows. Easy enough to strip out, but same as you a bugger to find like for like replacements. I ended up going back to the company that fitted the windows who were able to supply the correct (OEM) mechanisms.

Do you know either who manufactured or fitted the door?

They may be the people to ask for spares!


No idea who manufactured the door, it's in a rental property & no ID that I can see on it


russbost - 24/5/18 at 10:20 AM

quote:
Originally posted by watsonpj
Russ have you tried taking the parts to dg supplying on the 127 Southend. I have some old units and they have been able to supply equivalent parts but also give advice on how to rework.
Pete


Is that DG Supplyline at Westcliff? If so they only show one offset handle set on their website which is 215mm centres .........


Slater - 24/5/18 at 01:38 PM

I had exact same issue about 1 yr ago, ended up driving round various door/window factories with the old handle until I found one that had spares. Think it was a specialist door handle place that had them, 40 quid for a new pair.

Here is a link if it helps.. maybe give them a call, they were very helpful, my handles were pretty old and not on their website.

Linker


nick205 - 24/5/18 at 01:55 PM

No chance of re-tapping the thread - maybe slightly bigger diameter?


russbost - 24/5/18 at 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by nick205
No chance of re-tapping the thread - maybe slightly bigger diameter?


I doubt it, there's not much "meat" around those die cast ali threads, if I'm really stuck I guess I could drill thro' & put a length of studding in there with some domed nuts on so it looks pretty


nick205 - 24/5/18 at 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by russbost
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
No chance of re-tapping the thread - maybe slightly bigger diameter?


I doubt it, there's not much "meat" around those die cast ali threads, if I'm really stuck I guess I could drill thro' & put a length of studding in there with some domed nuts on so it looks pretty



Fair point, there's certainly no spare metal them.


bart - 24/5/18 at 10:50 PM

I have a work shop next door to the best double glazing spares place in the country sells all spares for doors ect.if they don't do it.then unlikely to get it anywhere else. I think there called doors and hinges I'll find out get back to you


bart - 24/5/18 at 10:54 PM

https://www.handlesandhinges.co.uk/


nick205 - 25/5/18 at 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by bart
https://www.handlesandhinges.co.uk/



Bookmarked - could come in handy one day


Slater - 25/5/18 at 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by bart https://www.handlesandhinges.co.uk/



That's an excellent website! You gotta love this forum!


russbost - 25/5/18 at 12:10 PM

Unfortunately doesn't look like they do anything like it either, looks like I need to strip out the door mechanism & see if there space to redrill holes further out


jacko - 25/5/18 at 02:02 PM

how about a self taping screw to replace the bolt


russbost - 25/5/18 at 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by jacko
how about a self taping screw to replace the bolt


That's precisely what someone had done in the past! & hence mashed the thread in the handle for about 2/3rds of it's length, it's holding at the moment, but I really can't trust it, plus as the handle is old & worn it's only a matter of time b4 something else lets go on it - I don't just want to move it on to be a problem again in another 6 months time or whatever, hence why I wanted to replace the whole handle set (preferably with something that's easier to get a replacement for in future!


Angel Acevedo - 26/5/18 at 02:51 PM

Fill with plastic steel putty, re-drill and re-tap?
HTH