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Jon Ison - 1/11/06 at 05:51 PM

The land of BT Broadband oblivion, apparently listening too there recorded messages there are still plenty of BT customers without any service, something too do with them been attacked by a virus ?

phelpsa - 1/11/06 at 05:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
The land of BT Broadband oblivion, apparently listening too there recorded messages there are still plenty of BT customers without any service, something too do with them been attacked by a virus ?


AIDS!

So thats what BT get upto when they're supposed to be fixing telephone lines?

Confused but excited. - 1/11/06 at 05:54 PM

Could be!
They're too slow to catch a cold!

ch1ll1 - 1/11/06 at 05:58 PM

I'm in colchester, no bb yesterday!
they said our exchange is connected to Manchester and that's where the problem is !
so how can that give me no bb as im 250 miles away from them!

swmbo says its kids they pinched the server as a trick or treat thing !

[Edited on 1/11/06 by ch1ll1]

[Edited on 1/11/06 by ch1ll1]

JackNco - 1/11/06 at 06:11 PM

im sorry, if my ISP was so lax in security a virus took there entire system down ide quit instantly, imagine how much data they hold on you... including the encryption keys to your details and accounts............ FUCK THAT SHIT

wilkingj - 1/11/06 at 09:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JackNco
im sorry, if my ISP was so lax in security a virus took there entire system down ide quit instantly, imagine how much data they hold on you... including the encryption keys to your details and accounts............ FUCK THAT SHIT


Ah... Well informed comments.

I bet you have no idea of the network topography involved at an ISP's Data Centre.

All your sensitive account data is locked away on heavily protected and firewalled servers.

You dont honestly expect people to believe that the accounts and credit card details are kept on the front end servers.

Authentication is commonly done by Radius servers which send encrypted data to and from those heavily protected database servers via a network of firewalls and back end connections that are just not physically accessible from the front end users.

Network and server security is a complex subject if its done seriously.

One thing you can guarantee is that the ISP's servers are more secure than your home PC:

JackNco - 1/11/06 at 09:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
quote:
Originally posted by JackNco
im sorry, if my ISP was so lax in security a virus took there entire system down ide quit instantly, imagine how much data they hold on you... including the encryption keys to your details and accounts............ FUCK THAT SHIT


Ah... Well informed comments.

I bet you have no idea of the network topography involved at an ISP's Data Centre.

All your sensitive account data is locked away on heavily protected and firewalled servers.

You dont honestly expect people to believe that the accounts and credit card details are kept on the front end servers.

Authentication is commonly done by Radius servers which send encrypted data to and from those heavily protected database servers via a network of firewalls and back end connections that are just not physically accessible from the front end users.

Network and server security is a complex subject if its done seriously.

One thing you can guarantee is that the ISP's servers are more secure than your home PC:



LOL ok fair comment that was NOT the most well constructed comment in the world. Put it down to Lack of sleep

But i do have a good understanding of *ISP Network Topology* although i wouldn't call it a topology as that Usually identifies an individual Network or interconnection of a single Network. im actualy doing a BSC in Network Computing. My point was that ANY virus allowed to get on to the ISP and spread to the extent that it caused that much damage is a VERY bad thing and that Security is compromised in a big way.

If BT Are slow enough to allow it to spread that far i woudlnt trust them. i am aware that Account information is not stored on the same servers that handel the actual internet gubbins, and any Keys for encryption are generaly stored off the network.

But Mistakes are made and ide say thats what caused this cock up

In short i wouldn't stand for it from my ISP

John

TimC - 2/11/06 at 08:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by JackNco
I bet you have no idea of the network topography involved at an ISP's Data Centre.


Geeky sentence of the day...


MikeR - 2/11/06 at 09:36 AM

Even worse i've had to sit in meetings where the network infrastructure for the NHS was discussed, then how we interface a partners network to that and the resultant security stuff........

and i'm not a network bod

(and i'd like to claim i mostly understood it - the joys of doing one module in networking 15 years ago)

JackNco - 2/11/06 at 09:49 AM

i never said that! that was wilkingj!

wilkingj - 2/11/06 at 10:05 PM

Cooo!!
Do I get an award for Geeky "Sentence of the day"??


That one came off the top of my head... I didnt even use my 3 word wheel!!

Trouble with new virus's is that you cant combat them until after they have struck. As you dont know what to look for codewise.

All you can do is to look for suspicious behaviour..

bit of chicken and egg sort of job.

Good luck with your course JackNco.

JackNco - 2/11/06 at 10:10 PM

Cheers, sorry for the reply i think i worded it a bit strong n wasnt in a great mood, handnt slept in a few days, uni stress n stuff.

Didnt mean to sound that abrupt. and yes the binary strings cant be traced until its been discovered but i bet if u looked in to it the real mistake was some boob bringing in a disk from home n everything going tits up .

All the best 2 u 2

John