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Fury/Phoenix v '7' replicas
arrybradbury - 13/1/07 at 03:26 PM

What are the advantages/disadvantages of each of these designs? Thinking in terms of bike power but all opinions welcomed!


coozer - 13/1/07 at 03:28 PM

The Fury and Phoenix are just the Sylva Striker with a full body attached. More or less anyway.

There will be small weight penalty for the extra fibreglass.


donut - 13/1/07 at 03:51 PM

Even though there is extra weight with the fibre glass they still come out very very light and there's not much in it. Personally i think the full bodied cars look better.


BenB - 13/1/07 at 04:01 PM

I like the Fury myself. The rear is a bit nicer IMHO than the Phoenix curved rear end... but it's a close call.

They're more aerodynamic but as mentioned weigh a little bit more. So top end should be better, acceleration might be a tiny bit slower..... I can confirm that even a 1600 Xflow Fury (borrowed off my brother) can do crazy speeds. In my defence I thought the speedo was broken (over-reading) and the car felt so smooth I had no reason to suspect I was going as fast as I was... The road was quiet and it was only when I overtook some cars (who appeared to be going very slowly) that I realised maybe the speedo was working just fine!!! What a numpty!!! Certainly a Seven would have hit the wall aerodynamically 20mph before.... and there was spare power available.....

There is quite a difference in experience driving them though. In a Seven you feel very exposed. In a FuryPhoenix (especially with a screen etc) it feels more cosetted, more like a normal road car..... Even though my Locost is very comfy for longer journeys I'd go for the FuryPhoenix.... For an exhilarating blat I'd go for the Se7en anytime....

I love my Locost but a Fury would be my next build......


ricklawn - 13/1/07 at 04:34 PM

depends what you want it for. i have just bought a fury with 18 zetec, where as my mate has a 1.8 mk indy. both do a good job and will definatly put a smile on your face. but the fury still gets my vote because you r more enclosed with a full screen and decent hood.


donut - 13/1/07 at 04:57 PM

quote:

you r more enclosed with a full screen and decent hood.

Very good point!!


chriscook - 13/1/07 at 05:01 PM

The Phoenix is the same chassis as the striker - certainly were originally but the current owners have made some changes. The Fury is very similar.

You certainly feel less exposed in a Phoenix or Fury than a 7 as your right arm isn't outside the car.

There will be a a weight penalty compared to the striker but the striker is probably one of the lightest 7s so compared to locost/indy I would think there would be nothing in it. Birt's zx9 phoenix weighed in at 420kg before he took it apart to bugger off to Oz.

and of course aerodynamics as already mentioned. The Phoenix doesn't have to option to fit a full screen but the Fury you can have and aeroscreen or full screen.


watsonpj - 13/1/07 at 06:02 PM

my fury weighed in at 465kg at sva (blade engine) thats with a full screen and wipers plus doors so the weight penalty isn't huge

[Edited on 13/1/07 by watsonpj]


ricklawn - 13/1/07 at 06:52 PM

great video, thats what it is all about .......FANTASTIC......


Catpuss - 13/1/07 at 08:37 PM

Could you imagine that road as your daily commute to work.

"Sorry boss I can't do anything today I'm too f**ked on adrenaline".


Jonte - 14/1/07 at 08:03 AM

nice road, is it portugal?


Werner Van Loock - 14/1/07 at 10:47 AM

And what about the stylus, also from Sylva originally and a bit more practical then the fury/phoenix as it has a boot.

Here's a picture of a BEC Stylus RT
(Sorry about the size)



Feel free to visit our forum to ask questoins there? www.clubstylus.be/phpBB2/index.php or the website www.clubstylus.be

[Edited on 14/1/07 by Werner Van Loock]

[Edited on 14/1/07 by Werner Van Loock]


David Jenkins - 14/1/07 at 11:12 AM

Oh, I do like the look of the Stylus... maybe if I ever get the courage to tell my wife that I fancy building another car!


Jasper - 14/1/07 at 03:31 PM

Had a BEC Seven, decided I wanted something more 'full bodied' and am now building a Stylus.

Main reasons - you sit more in it than on it, especially if you're tall. Better weather protection, doors, and I do prefer the look. There are just so many Sevens out there now I fancied something a little different. I also wanted a long distance cars for Rallies, so for me it suited the purpose better.

Aerodynamics are definitely better, but this will only be noticed at higher speeds I'm sure.

As for handling - I'm sure a lot of it is down to individual set - up at the end of the day - Hicosts has spent many years and ££££ getting his to handling like it does - out of the box I would recon than a Fisher/Stylus would handle as well if not better than most budget Sevens, after that it just depends how much time you put in to getting it right.