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woodster - 23/2/07 at 10:03 AM

Good old Tony

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6388713.stm


macnab - 23/2/07 at 10:19 AM

like I said, tony + bush = WWIII


martyn_16v - 23/2/07 at 10:21 AM

Might as well paint a f*ck off big red target on the country (I vote putting it on Essex)


macnab - 23/2/07 at 10:22 AM

no London, that's where the problem is...though the target is only 6ft in diameter





[Edited on 23/2/07 by macnab]


iank - 23/2/07 at 11:00 AM

I really hope we demand 10's of billions of pounds per year rent for the land. If not why make ourselves target one?

But I suspect Tony will get a bung of a couple of million for a 'speaking tour' and it will be perpetually rent free.


James - 23/2/07 at 11:07 AM

I'm not entirely sure why having part of a missile defence system (at the end of the day it's designed to shoot down incoming ICBMs) makes us more of a target.

If anything we're more protected as we get included under part of the defence 'umbrella'.

Cheers,
James


macnab - 23/2/07 at 11:13 AM

You all know fine well that both Bush and Blair plus their friends have shares etc. in defence companys…


iank - 23/2/07 at 11:25 AM

quote:
Originally posted by James
I'm not entirely sure why having part of a missile defence system (at the end of the day it's designed to shoot down incoming ICBMs) makes us more of a target.

If anything we're more protected as we get included under part of the defence 'umbrella'.

Cheers,
James


We become more of a target because anyone wanting to get an ICBM into the states will have to wipe out the defence system first. Easiest way is a nuclear strike.

The defence system needs time to react and get a missile in the air to shoot down successfully. If you are too near the launch site you don't get time to react. That's why the Americans need it over this side of the Atlantic not on their own coast.

All pointless of course, the most likely attack these days is someone smuggling a small low tech dirty nuke into the middle of a major city. Unless the aim is actually to kick off another arms race with Russia/China.

[Edited on 23/2/07 by iank]


Phil.J - 23/2/07 at 11:49 AM

In the early sixties (yes, I do remember being there!) the US stated that in the event of a nuclear strike, they would be obliged to strike at Britain to prevent the Russians getting a strategic foothold here. That was the start of our capitulation to the US that continues to this day. So after Greenham common went they were bound to site a new strike facility here so that they could keep the srategic foothold, but I don'y know who against now!


macnab - 23/2/07 at 11:51 AM

I think I'll have to take that last statement with a very LARGE pinch of salt


As far as I'm aware the US has bases here and the alliance with the US actually goes back to WII and the rather large loan of money we borrowed from them to fight the Germans.



[Edited on 23/2/07 by macnab]


Agriv8 - 23/2/07 at 11:53 AM

Right conspiracy theory no 1.

Bet they are halfway there already Gouvernment just gauging the reaction of general public so they can decide how secret it needs to be when they do it if the public wants it or not !!!!!!!!.

Anyone noticied how many Golf balls ( covered raidar systems ) have suddenly apeared at memworth hill. ( near Harrogate ).

they are already up to somthing in there and no one can find out. As it is OFFICALLY american soil.

least it will be quick < 20 mile from home and work

Regards

Agriv8


macnab - 23/2/07 at 11:58 AM

It's the aliens again...they wan't to cut up the cows


Findlay234 - 23/2/07 at 12:45 PM

why spend millions if not billions on an anti missile defence system when one of the biggest threats at the moment seems to be from land based devices (explosive and dirty)

guess they realise there isnt really much they can do against a determined land based attack on london...


ayoungman - 23/2/07 at 01:27 PM

Guess who's going to be payimg for it then ? Us motorists.
We are after all just a huge money making machine for the government arn't we ?


martyn_16v - 23/2/07 at 05:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Findlay234
why spend millions if not billions on an anti missile defence system when one of the biggest threats at the moment seems to be from land based devices (explosive and dirty)



Probably for about the same reasons that we're pumping billions into a replacement for Trident and our nuclear subs, which will be oh so useful against a suicide bomber. Official blurb is that they have to be prepared for potential situations in a changing world, and projects commisioned now won't go into service for another decade. The more suspicious among you might think that the govt are planning for a future cold war with China...


Peteff - 23/2/07 at 07:54 PM

Why? We love the Chinese because they sell us cheap sh!t and feed us