Saying as our elected members are deciding on our behalf whether to renew Trident, what does Jo Locoster think?
I vote aye. But, now you have gone and started and argument, just you watch
If we (the British) want to be taken seriously in the rest of the world, we have to have a credible nuclear deterrent.
Simple as that really.
keep trident.
I live just across the river from Faslane, and i don't feel in danger. I think we can be trusted to use them only as a deterent, whereas some
countries with nuclear plans cannot be trusted. i think trident keeps them at bay
MAD
just in case
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Originally posted by zilspeed
Religion, football and politics............
yeah we should get some if only just to keep out the welsh
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yeah we should get some if only just to keep out the welsh
renew them iran, south korea, north korea all play about with them or want them do we really want no deterent but they should only ever be a deterent
No they won't be made in this country, even though B.Liar says they will. They will be American built, owned and maintained. The only British bit
is the flag.
While I say build as big and as many as we want, build them HERE. The only reason the yanks want them here is cos it gives them another three
hours!
I've nowt against the yanks (before they jump on me), but I do have trouble with their politicians and slightly screwy motives. And ours for that
matter.
ATB
Simon
ATB
Simon
Take a look at an atlas, six nuclear strikes is all it would take to obliterate the whole of the UK. We are not a World power anymore, we are a third
world country where it is safe to drink the tap water.
It is about time we told the yanks to FO home. Their lease has expired anyway.
They screw us every chance they get and give us nothing but grief in return and their beer is pants.
Looks like they went with the majority on here then?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6448173.stm
Mind you, if you go to the link above, then take the "See a 360-degree panorama of a Trident submarine control room" aout half way down the
page, then you'll see our boys are sitting on beaded seat covers like a minicab driver!
Definatley time to replace it then!?
Mike
I don't like wars or armies or WMD. I'm virtually a pacifist. I don't like the idea of being undefended though so I'll happily
let the military do their thing.
I don't see why we can't rebuild the existing trident though in the same way that a good engine company can rebuild, say, a rover v8 and get
a really rather nice end result.
Much as I dislike nukes, they can't be uninvented and so someone has got to keep them as an ultimate deterant. I don't want the USA to be
the only ones with them so I'd keep ours.
As a deterant they are poor - it gives a no-one wins outcome only. That is the deterant though. You attack us in a big way and you will lose. In a
big way. Its the believable "you will not win" threat that is the deterant.
my two favourite dumb comments, from the BBC site recently:
'if we give them up, iran and north korea will too'
'if iran cant have them, why should we?'
some people are so dumb they deserve to end up in the world they would create....
Why do we spend money new nuclear weapons when we dont use the ones we've got!
thats the plan, that we dont have to use them....
that control room is old skool! all those square buttons that light up, and the black & brown comuter screens
Why spend 20 billion, which will turn out to be 50 or a 100 billion when it actualy comes about, (whos ever heard of a gov't project coming in to
budget). That money could be far better spent on things within the country. We definately are not a world power, (anymore), so why try to act like
one, if anything we are just the tail of George W's dog, and wag at his command. Must watch the blood pressure, all this is not good for
me... Ray
I say wast of money.
Remember this is not to aquire a nuclear deterant but to spend £20,000,000,000 to upgrade an already very effective and potent nuclear system.
If you owned a 42" plasma screen would you spend all your money and your pension on buying a 50" plasma because your so called insane
"friend" who consistently slags other peoples TVs and even says that some people shouldn't have a TV, says it a good idea.
Oh, and of course he will sell it too you but keep the remote control.
Its another example of Tonys pandering to the US.
Tell me which country or president you would trust with the button.
I can think of two i'm unsure of
I live just across the river from Faslane, and i don't feel in danger
Wait and see if Glen Douglas gets hit mate. BOOOMMMM!!
Who really cares, the government will do as they choose anyway..........
Absolutely. The only one I would vote for.
No they won't be made in this country
Not entirely true. RAF armourer for 7 years, just out last year.
we are a third world country where it is safe to drink the tap water.
I don't think we are are we? (question, not quote) Though I do believe Northern Ireland was classed as one in the not too distant past.
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Originally posted by mistergrumpy
I live just across the river from Faslane, and i don't feel in danger
Wait and see if Glen Douglas gets hit mate. BOOOMMMM!!
Happy chap then eh? The constant rain would probably subdue it. I used to go there at least once a fortnight for ages. Odd little place, especially
when you turn a corner and see a massive tanker there in the lochs.
drove past that way many years ago when i was about 10. can't remember if i could actually see anything.
Its all burrowed into the hills. You wouldn't see a great deal.
What I think wont mater, what the public think wont mater,
I think the should be kept as a deterant but my gut feeling is we are America's lapdog on this one.
I suspect that mr bush wants them in the uk so he can get to the arab's saudies anbody else that has oil supplies that his country need's
and his economy is based on.
who will have control on the button basicaly I wouldnt trust a polititain to make the right decision would you ?
Regards
Agriv8
That control room does look ancient. I only hope these two things have no connection with one another.
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We have missiles trained on the Whitehouse ready to make our move. We will get our revenge on the Yankee b@st@rds for throwing our tea in the dock
when they least expect it and get back in with the Arabs at the same time, safeguarding our future oil supplies.
Only kidding George Love Tony. XXXXX
I am all for creating stacks of enormous cardboard and plastic missiles, thousands of inflatable tanks and subs. Create vast armadas and then watch
the yanks and other foreign powers panic when they see their satellite photos!!!
For even more fun build a fleet of fake flying saucers sit them on an old runway and then deny all knowledge when Bush comes over for that ‘special
visit’
[Edited on 16/3/07 by Mr Whippy]
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Originally posted by Mr WhippyI am all for creating stacks of enormous cardboard and plastic missiles, thousands of inflatable tanks and subs. Create vast armadas and then watch the yanks and other foreign powers panic when they see their satellite photos!!!
So we have these multigazillion pound bombs. If we use them we all die. What the f*** is the point of that.
Postwar economic miracles were germany and japan - the ones who weren't allowed military expenditure. Ah that'll just be coincidence I
suppose....
Bob