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LOL! Fleebay snipe city
BenB - 10/4/07 at 06:31 PM

You've got to laugh!!!

Wow!:

jos - 10/4/07 at 07:07 PM

6 bids in the last minute

NigeEss - 10/4/07 at 07:14 PM

Last bid 15 seconds before end.

I've managed two before now, sniped





[Edited on 10/4/07 by NigeEss]

caber - 10/4/07 at 08:38 PM

try this!

http://lotsnipe.auctionstealer.com/

Caber

tks - 10/4/07 at 09:37 PM

i cant see the problem really!

First step is what is my maximum bid?
then stick with that!
sow Ben if you maximum was 20 pounds then just fill that in if it was 10 then ten its that easy guys...

and if you think that 22,85pounds is also feasable then put that in...

if its between you and another one it will always go away a bit more then what you put in as maximum..(logicly)
and if no one wants it then you only lost at what it stays

no one knows what the max of each one is no one knows if he is the winner in case he would bid 50pence more...

Quiet easy i thought....

Tks

ironside - 10/4/07 at 10:37 PM

There are lots of reasons for sniping:

Sometimes you just don't know what your maximum bid is, especially if it means just another quid would bag you the item. I think you have a better idea what you're prepared to pay at the end, I do anyway!

You are committed to a bid right away if you bid normally. If you snipe you have all the way up to the last seconds to change your mind without any negative consequences.

Concealing your interest in an item until the very end means that you don't get into a bidding war with somebody else (whether legit or a shill bidder.) You also don't get involved in people nibbling away at your bid or figuring out your maximum bid so they know what to beat.

Also, if there are no bids at all on an item it might make it look less attractive to other bidders as they're wondering why nobody's bidding. You could end up paying less by sniping here.

Lots of people don't put in their maximum bid even when bidding normally either because they don't understand the proxy bidding system or because they actually believe they will get the Ferrari for 99p.

There are drawbacks of course, if your maximum is the same as a "normal" bidders maximum who placed their bid earlier, you will lose - you only get one shot! Also if items have no bids at all some sellers might assume there is no interest and end the auction early.

tks - 10/4/07 at 10:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ironside
There are lots of reasons for sniping:

Sometimes you just don't know what your maximum bid is, especially if it means just another quid would bag you the item. I think you have a better idea what you're prepared to pay at the end, I do anyway!

You are committed to a bid right away if you bid normally. If you snipe you have all the way up to the last seconds to change your mind without any negative consequences.

Concealing your interest in an item until the very end means that you don't get into a bidding war with somebody else (whether legit or a shill bidder.) You also don't get involved in people nibbling away at your bid or figuring out your maximum bid so they know what to beat.

Also, if there are no bids at all on an item it might make it look less attractive to other bidders as they're wondering why nobody's bidding. You could end up paying less by sniping here.

Lots of people don't put in their maximum bid even when bidding normally either because they don't understand the proxy bidding system or because they actually believe they will get the Ferrari for 99p.

There are drawbacks of course, if your maximum is the same as a "normal" bidders maximum who placed their bid earlier, you will lose - you only get one shot! Also if items have no bids at all some sellers might assume there is no interest and end the auction early.


I'm not with you, you don't come up with a deff reason. in fact the only thing you say is that you cant know your maximum bid until another persons bids on the same item.....

i also doubt your max bid figureing out trick there is only one way to find out and thats simply bidding..

snipeing only makes sense if you are bidding against a bidder wich puts in his max bid in portions of 5pounds...

i never do that i just bid what i max want to pay and thats it its just a question of bidding in the last 10min the amount you are willing to pay.

think about it if Ben (in this case) would have put in a max of 25pounds)

(his truly max bid) he would have had the item for 18pounds?? no maybe the other person had a max bid of 26pounds.....

it doesn't make sense (from my point of vieuw)

but its complex and the true of the story lies in who is your opponent bidder?

Tks

ironside - 10/4/07 at 11:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tks

I'm not with you, you don't come up with a deff reason. in fact the only thing you say is that you cant know your maximum bid until another persons bids on the same item.....



I think the main reasons would be:

Avoiding bidding wars (legit or otherwise) by concealing your interest until the last few seconds

and

Possibly netting a better bargain by not making the item look so hot (with lots of bids.) Or giving people who do not understand the proxy bidding system no chance to respond to your bid.

There are paranoia reasons too that I don't really seriously believe will happen to me. Like the maximum bid thing below and people that follow you around bidding on things you're interested in.

But you are right, it's down to chance. If everybody watched the items then sniped at the end then it makes no difference, highest bid wins - always. I just believe sniping betters your odds a bit

quote:
Originally posted by tks

i also doubt your max bid figureing out trick there is only one way to find out and thats simply bidding..



They can bid something ridiculously huge - which would reveal your maximum bid - and then retract the bid with an excuse like "sorry, I mistyped." Obviously that is frowned upon by ebay and is a big no-no.

quote:
Originally posted by tks

snipeing only makes sense if you are bidding against a bidder wich puts in his max bid in portions of 5pounds...



Someone like my mum - who doesn't understand the proxy bidding system

The other thing you can do is use it for bidding on commodity items. Sniping services allow you to select a bunch of similar items all ending within a short space of each other (like a memory card, for example.)

You can set your maxmimum bid and how many of the items you actually want. The system will then snipe for you until you have either won the required number of items or you've run out of auctions in the group.

Quite cool - I've yet to try it.

Tralfaz - 10/4/07 at 11:24 PM

If it were that simple, the idea of an auction wouldn't work.

Many people go to in auction in the hopes of getting a 'deal'. Why bid 500 if you might get it for 50? You also have to consider that if you enter a set amount, another bidder can slowly up their bid, pushing up the price without becoming the high bidder thus forcing you to pay a higher than necessary price.


T

BenB - 11/4/07 at 07:18 AM

I always put a bid on for the most I want to pay for it.... I like getting stuff cheap (ie I'm tight) so I often bid low and get outbid... Normally, however, its just two or three people who snipe me!!!
Never mind, those injectors were rather high flowing for my intented purpose. Even when I go supercharged, the Saab 900 injectors should be a closer match...

caber - 11/4/07 at 07:50 AM

I am afraid that the automated auction system is ideal for automated sniping! Ebay could stop it instantly by aying the auction will end within say 2 minutes of the time advisedrather than giving a "to the second" ending time.

What annoys me is when I place a normal bid well above the last bid losing by a minimal margin at the last minute and being pushed right up to my limit although I really don't know how this happens I presume it is shill bidding but the bidding record frequently shows only one bid just at the price below my bid, this has happened a lot on commercial sites when there is a very low start price and few bids!

Caber

ChrisGamlin - 11/4/07 at 12:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by caber

What annoys me is when I place a normal bid well above the last bid losing by a minimal margin at the last minute and being pushed right up to my limit although I really don't know how this happens I presume it is shill bidding but the bidding record frequently shows only one bid just at the price below my bid, this has happened a lot on commercial sites when there is a very low start price and few bids!

Caber


Isn't this simply when the current highest bidder has a higher proxy bid that you? Say for example we're both bidding on an engine. The starting price is £500 so I bid £800, but because I'm the only bidder, my bid and the starting price is £500, my bid only shows as £500. You come along and bid £750 (well above the current highest bid) but because Ive proxy bid £800, my bid will automatically raise itself to £760 to beat you, but in the history only one bid of mine will be shown. If you then bid £770 in an attempt to outbid me, my proxy will again raise to £780 to beat your latest bid, but still with only a single bid registered in the history.

[Edited on 11/4/07 by ChrisGamlin]