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Ultima Goes Green!
DavidM - 3/5/07 at 02:03 PM

This should keep greenpeace and Friends of the Earth happy.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=16220

Even makes me want to be environmentally friendly.

David

02GF74 - 3/5/07 at 02:08 PM

quote:
The 800bhp supercharged option will be rather brisk,

arrybradbury - 3/5/07 at 02:56 PM

Guesses at the price tag?

thomas4age - 3/5/07 at 03:20 PM

nice and all, But Gardner Douglass has this line (ls*) of engines for a few years now as standard.

In my opinion it should be standard for ultima aswell and not an option.

grtz Thomas

RazMan - 3/5/07 at 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by arrybradbury
Guesses at the price tag?


Certainly not below £50K

JoelP - 3/5/07 at 06:11 PM

it annoys me when they call an 800bhp engine 'green' just because it meets emission regulations. It would still burn an obscene amount of fuel.

RazMan - 3/5/07 at 06:27 PM

Yeah, as if an 800bhp monster is going to be environment friendly - now if it could be run on bat droppings I would be interested .......

cossey - 3/5/07 at 08:29 PM

it isnt really that surprising, it just a factory option for what several builders have been doing for a while. and its hardly green just meeting the current sva emission regs which are really that tight.

the only real environmental 800bhp cars are of the f1 variety which are are surprisingly efficient in fuel consumption/bhp far better than a prius.

gttman - 3/5/07 at 08:41 PM

This is long overdue............ having built an Ultima the old SBC just doesn't cut it IMO.... when you've spent over £45k (the average build cost) having an engine that constantly smells of petrol, leaks oil everywere and stalls under braking just doesn't cut it... how it can be in keeping with the ethos of the car is beyond me.

The LS series should definatelly be standard.... represents a huge step forward.

Simon - 3/5/07 at 08:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cossey

the only real environmental 800bhp cars are of the f1 variety which are are surprisingly efficient in fuel consumption/bhp far better than a prius.


If you call 4 mpg efficient!!!

At least the Ultima, even with 800bhp will do 20mpg at a constant throttle, which it'll be doing most of the time.

ATB

Simon

cossey - 4/5/07 at 07:36 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Simon
quote:
Originally posted by cossey

the only real environmental 800bhp cars are of the f1 variety which are are surprisingly efficient in fuel consumption/bhp far better than a prius.


If you call 4 mpg efficient!!!

At least the Ultima, even with 800bhp will do 20mpg at a constant throttle, which it'll be doing most of the time.

ATB

Simon


f1 cars dont use 4mpg when cruising though. if you compare like for like ie on a dyno measure how much the chevy uses when it is making 800bhp to what the f1 uses youll find the f1 cars uses alot less fuel.

how many locosts do you now that get 20-25mpg whilst being trashed round a track?

gttman - 4/5/07 at 07:44 AM

best I ever got out of my Ultima was 14mpg.

NS Dev - 4/5/07 at 02:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by thomas4age
nice and all, But Gardner Douglass has this line (ls*) of engines for a few years now as standard.

In my opinion it should be standard for ultima aswell and not an option.

grtz Thomas



why?

they are less proven than the HOZZ hased engines

NS Dev - 4/5/07 at 02:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gttman
This is long overdue............ having built an Ultima the old SBC just doesn't cut it IMO.... when you've spent over £45k (the average build cost) having an engine that constantly smells of petrol, leaks oil everywere and stalls under braking just doesn't cut it... how it can be in keeping with the ethos of the car is beyond me.

The LS series should definatelly be standard.... represents a huge step forward.


LOL granted, the continued use of a holley carb confuses me (bear in mind Richard Marlow is a good mate of mine and I have told this to him enough times!! ) but their reasoning is that a car built with a poorly set up holley that the builder/owner insisted on doing themselves, is still going to run, whereas poorly set up injection either doesn't run, or results in broken engines and much anguish for ultima and customer.

I went to le mans in 1995 in the (then) 640hp demo car, and smelt no fuel, no stalling and no problems at all.

Fact is, if your sbc is running poorly, you have not got it set up right, they work just fine, they are only an engine for goodness sake!

I can't argue with 720hp and 650lbft of torque that doesn't need mad servicing and is reliable 100% for 15,000 miles for £11k...............................

Yes, an £1800 iron block and iron head chevy smallblock is crude but effective, but in effect on most cars built these days the only bit used is the block, and that is often ally now the price is right.