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Alonso demoted
locoR1 - 4/8/07 at 10:24 PM

Just watching the ITV news Alonso has been demoted 5 places on tomorrows grid!

Agriv8 - 4/8/07 at 10:29 PM

Excelent News confirmed on bbc website

BBC F1 Sport

Regards

Agriv8

[Edited on 4/8/07 by Agriv8]

JoelP - 4/8/07 at 10:31 PM

very bad news for mclaren though

bigrich - 4/8/07 at 10:31 PM

no constructors points for Mclaren either
http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070805001402.shtml

TGR-ECOSSE - 4/8/07 at 10:33 PM

I know!! You lot can be so slow
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=71774

Omni - 4/8/07 at 10:34 PM

GREAT NEWS!!!! Now go and win it Hamilton!

Agriv8 - 4/8/07 at 10:36 PM

TGR not slow just pi55ed

Regards

Agriv8

TGR-ECOSSE - 4/8/07 at 11:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Agriv8
TGR not slow just pi55ed

Regards

Agriv8


Me too but being Scottish i can do it better

Ronnie

brianq12 - 5/8/07 at 02:21 AM

im not British so if Barachello had done that to Schumacher how many of you would be smiling?

Honestrly now

robertst - 5/8/07 at 02:30 AM

i'd like to give my input on this circumstance given the big reaction to his behavior.

being a spaniard i would normally defend alonso no matter what.. but in this case and knowing how he behaves in F1 i can not protest about the reaction he has caused. i personally think he's a ba***ard and has no sense of formality whatsoever. actually my favourite guy in F1 at the moment is Hamilton because he's proven to be a great driver and an amazing F1 personality.

i remember when alonso won his first Spanish grand prix and the king of Spain came to the podium to congratulate him and he didn't even try to acknowledge him. he actually ignored him until the king himself had to grab him on the arm to make him react... that really put me off, no matter if he's a fellow spaniard he's a plonker...

the truth is hamilton reminds me of senna really... where alonso drives like he was in a quasi rally/gokart, hamilton really has the technique in him.

i didnt see the qualifying session today but being aware of the reaction it gave... i'm not really surprised...

lets see tomorrow what happens.. if alonso wins i'll not be sad, but if hamilton wins i'll know deep down that it was meant to be...

viatron - 5/8/07 at 05:21 AM

IMO Hamiltons biggest contribution to F1 is his attitude and composure, very rarely gets rattled and always gives good conscise interviews, a true ambassadoe for the sport and a breath of freah air. Alonso, i am afraid, just proves where the sport has gone wrong.

907 - 5/8/07 at 06:55 AM

Personally I'm a little disappointed in the demotion to 6th place.


I would rather have seen LH race him to the first corner.... and beat him of course.



Maybe we will see a duel between them later on in the race, or maybe not.

Alonso does seem to get rattled when things go against him, and his driving then suffers.

Looking forward to the race.

Paul G

britishtrident - 5/8/07 at 08:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by brianq12
im not British so if Barachello had done that to Schumacher how many of you would be smiling?

Honestrly now


Alonso joins the hall of fame of dirty drivers along with Senna, Prost, Schuey, Farina

Guys like Rubens, Button. DC, & Hamilton just don't pull stunts like that. Until now I would have thought Alonso wouldn't have done something so nasty I used to rate him highly , perhaps next year he will replace Kimi at Ferrari he would feel right at home,

britishtrident - 5/8/07 at 08:41 AM

quote:
Originally posted by viatron
IMO Hamiltons biggest contribution to F1 is his attitude and composure, very rarely gets rattled and always gives good conscise interviews, a true ambassadoe for the sport and a breath of freah air. Alonso, i am afraid, just proves where the sport has gone wrong.


I think Hamilton is amazing the way he handles himself --- a true master of saying just enough. I think he has learned a lot from watching DC and Ron.

Agriv8 - 5/8/07 at 09:50 AM

Just read report in the times.

Seems that Hamilton not 100 % blamless ( the fact that he was out of position before the stop )

he also was exchangng F-words with Dennis after the 'incident' accourding to the report

Roll on this aft

Regards

Agriv8

designer - 5/8/07 at 09:59 AM

I think McLaren should be sent out of this season.

Found guilty by FIA and NOT punished, what sort of justice is that? Berbies doing the string pulling.

Now Alonso has been punished for gamesmanship. Surely, as the only driver effected was from the same team, it's a nonsense.

It's a total farce. Shows what a circus it is.

And besides Kubica is better than Hamilton!

Rob Palin - 5/8/07 at 10:04 AM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident

Guys like Rubens, Button. DC, & Hamilton just don't pull stunts like that. Until now I would have thought Alonso wouldn't have done something so nasty I used to rate him highly , perhaps next year he will replace Kimi at Ferrari he would feel right at home,


According to McLaren Hamilton was supposed to have let Alonso past during the fuel burning phase since they were on different strategties heading intot he last few minutes of qualifying. Hamilton did not follow the instructions from the pit and held Alonso up. Alonso repaid the favour, albeit in a really clumsy and blatant way.

If you think Hamilton is super-clean then rewatch the opening seconds of the British GP - even Schumacher would have been impressed by the ruthless chop Hamilton gave Raikkonen.

Plus you can see he's into mind games in the post race interviews -lots of subtle digs at Alonso. He's an excellent driver and (most of the time) a brilliant ambassador for the sport, sure, but to portray him as sweet & innocent is mistaken.

I'm not Alonso's biggest fan but i do think people are being unjustly critical of him this year; as though they're being blinded by the sun which clearly shines out of Hamilton's @rse!

omega 24 v6 - 5/8/07 at 11:00 AM

I don't think either of them are arses.But I do think it's good for the sport to have stuff like this going on. look at how much interest it's sparked on here and we very rarely debate in much depth about F1. As said roll on this afternoon

britishtrident - 5/8/07 at 03:19 PM

FIA have made a pig ear of running the sport going back to the immediate post WW2 era. I have watched and/or taken part in the sport over four decades and seen some dreadful travesties of justice over the years. I can list many instances where govenoring bodies and race orangisors have twisted the interpretation rules in favour of teams or drivers of their own nationality --- I might add not just in France or Italy, where home GP were concerned rules tend to get stretched in favour of a national hero such as Hunt or Schuey.

Mosley much as distrust the man has been better than those that went before him.