How long before we're like Burma or other places?
I like the Brazilian guy's comments. If you don't like the current government's actions, don't vote for them.
What the sodding hell do the food standards people need access to my phone calls for??!!! In principal I agree with it, but not at the widespread
level it's been introduced at. Yet another stupid decision by our idiotic gov't!
As for the Brazilian's response, would voting in any other party actually make a difference any more?
[Edited on 1/10/07 by DIY Si]
It's a f#@king cheek if you ask me.
This country will become a Police state if we don't have some balanced response to the terrorist threat.
The current Gov't seem to think the way to keep us all safe is to lock us all up (in our own homes) and keep tabs on everything we do.
I always thought that was what you did to the bad guys 
Files will also be kept on the sending and receipt of text messages.
what if you have a unregistered payt sim card ?
whats to stop you as a terrorist registering your sim to a made up name ?
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Originally posted by graememk
Files will also be kept on the sending and receipt of text messages.
what if you have a unregistered payt sim card ?
whats to stop you as a terrorist registering your sim to a made up name ?
I have written to Downing street asking them to install surveillance equipment in my house, except the toilet, obvioulsy as well as tagging myself,
my family and cat is it will stop terrorrism.
it is not the contents of the phone calls just information about them:
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Records will detail precisely what calls are made, their time and duration, and the name and address of the registered user of the phone.
So no doubt millions of pounds will be spent on this - and anyone can get around it simply by using a Pay As You Go mobile??
Am I being a bit slow today or is this correct??
It is the same sort of situation as the car tax dodgers "the DVLA computer knows where your car is etc" - only the pikey scumbags that avoid
paying car tax just don't register the car to themselves when they buy it, hence no parking tickets, speedcam fines etc. Buying a PAYG handset
with a false name & address for cash would work in exactly the same way.
In other words they can keep an eye on all the honest, law abiding citizens whilst the scumbags do what they like.
Personally i'm all for a national compulsory database of DNA, then we'll know who's done what apart from the illegal immigrants who
won't exist.
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Originally posted by 02GF74
I have written to Downing street asking them to install surveillance equipment in my house, except the toilet, obvioulsy as well as tagging myself, my family and cat is it will stop terrorrism.
it is not the contents of the phone calls just information about them:
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Records will detail precisely what calls are made, their time and duration, and the name and address of the registered user of the phone.
So just use the post; until they start opening letters.
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keep an eye on all the honest, law abiding citizens whilst the scumbags do what they like
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"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
but I like the cut of his jib 
All this has been happening for ages.
Phones have been used to track terrorists, criminals, disaster victims etc for ages. They even have historic data of the cells you have worked thru so
that they can then track who else is in your vicinity - that way the authorities build models of associative relations - i.e. who is where and with
whom. From this they can detect patterns of association and identify people associating with known targets, potentially identifying new threats.
Registering a phone in a different name won't defend you, they have other ways of working out who you really are.
When buses/trains etc get blown up or crash they use the phone signatures to identify who was on it. That way they can try to identify people whose
remains (if there are any) are beyond normal means of identification.
Interesting that they choose to let us know that they "intend to have the capability". I guess that must mean they are going to start to use
the data in prosecutions, and as such have to make it public that this is a capability at their disposal.
I find it amusing that we all get worked up about these things when we "know" about them. You can guarantee the authorities have such
capabilities and far more than we know about.
Perhaps ignorance truly is bliss.
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Originally posted by TGR-ECOSSE
Its true!! Texts and emails are monitored and they are set to pick up certain words and phrases. Can't tell you how i know