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jollygreengiant - 21/10/07 at 05:35 PM

Tough luck Hamilton. But Bernie Ecclestone spoke at the begining of the race ' I would like Raikanen to win the championship'.

And low it came to pass that Raikanen won. It was kind of on the cards after Bernie spoke.

richard thomas - 21/10/07 at 05:39 PM

Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory...

mookaloid - 21/10/07 at 05:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by richard thomas
Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory...


Twice

gordon - 21/10/07 at 05:43 PM

At least alonso not champ.

roadrunner - 21/10/07 at 05:57 PM

WHY PIT THREE TIMES.

britishtrident - 21/10/07 at 05:57 PM

Actually a very good race --- luck can't be included in calculations
Congrats to Kimi -- poor Massa having to give up a home victory
Lewis has a thing or two to learn from it but put up one hell of a fight after the glitch.

Rosberg --- chip off the old block.
Kubica good race

speedyxjs - 21/10/07 at 06:04 PM

My dad makes a good point in saying that maybe the only way mclaren got to keep their drivers points was if they didnt win the championship. Makes alot of sense and explains why it seems the FIA were against mclaren from hungary

TGR-ECOSSE - 21/10/07 at 06:05 PM

The right man won!! When does the rumour start about Hamiltons car being faulty deliberately???

chrisg - 21/10/07 at 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by TGR-ECOSSE
The right man won!! When does the rumour start about Hamiltons car being faulty deliberately???


Mclaren DO have a "stop the engine" button in the pit and that's a FACT!

He'll be a multiple world champion over the years, I'm sure that something has been done to ensure Mr Eccleston's dream result.

Maybe it's my suspicious nature

Cheers

Chris

ecosse - 21/10/07 at 06:19 PM

Kimi deserved it, Ferrari didn't (IMO of course )
And Rosberg had another top drive, he's gonna be hot property after his williams contract finishes

Cheers

Alex

kipper - 21/10/07 at 06:51 PM

as above really, How can a race be called a race when there are team orders. Ferrari fixed the result, by allowing Kimi to win, this time contrived in the pit stops.
It reminds me of wrestling, I hit you and you pretend to be hurt then you come back and win.
Give me Moto GP anytime.
The GP canot be called racing untill the drivers are allowed to race.
Sorry....
Rant over.
Regards Kipper.

Simon - 21/10/07 at 07:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by kipper
The GP canot be called racing untill the drivers are allowed to race.
Sorry....
Rant over.
Regards Kipper.


And the only way that'll happen is one car per team.

ATB

Simon

novacaine - 21/10/07 at 07:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Simon


one car per team.



Simon


wouldnt be a team then

stuart_g - 21/10/07 at 07:33 PM

F1 is crap it is definately fixed. They ought to show something more interesting like world superbikes on ITV instead of this crap.

mad dad - 21/10/07 at 08:28 PM

does seem very strange that his car failed for 30 secs and why 3 pit stops??? i would have thought he would have been filled at the second one with enough fuel to finish!!!??? it really is sad if there were politics and Lewis was prevented from making history for himself....................

I love speed :-P - 21/10/07 at 08:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mad dad
does seem very strange that his car failed for 30 secs and why 3 pit stops??? i would have thought he would have been filled at the second one with enough fuel to finish!!!??? it really is sad if there were politics and Lewis was prevented from making history for himself....................


Well Ron Dennis after the race said that by using a 3 stopper they made up 10 seconds.

quote:

as above really, How can a race be called a race when there are team orders.


In lots and lots of other race series team orders go off which are expected and accepted for example in BTCC, WTCC, GT, Dakar, F1, WRC etc

Jon Ison - 21/10/07 at 09:36 PM

I think Alonso may have got a phone call if required, now if he would have answered that would be another thing.....


I think Hamilton showed a bit of pressure in the last two races, I know the gearbox/whatever problem cost him the time but he shouldn't have had a go back at Alonso, he only had to follow him, bit like Damian all those years back, Shuey got slaughtered by British press but he was a sitting dick, had Damian waited rather than stick his nose in he would have passed easily later in the lap/race.

Just my 2p. I would have celebrated a Hamilton win btw and I'm sure he will learn from this and come back stronger.