More anger and unrest......
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7089933.stm
this website as some interesting figures
http://www.transaction-2007.com/
70-75p tax on a litre of petrol
Yeah , I can't believe we are so passive in this country , the French would would have driven their vehicles onto the nearest motorway and left
them until a more sensible level of tax was introduced.
I dont want to wreck the planet but , this level of tax takes the p*** in the name of the environment.
Also because of the transport costs EVERYTHING goes up accordingly.
I was very in the 'dumpthepumps' protest some years ago , but to say the british people are apathetic is a massive understatement.
It makes my blood boil 
but until we can get the Labour party out of power I don't know what can really be done.
I hope that lorry drivers will protest and they have my support.
My fuel bill has just gone up by £50 per month in the last few weeks and there is no sign that it has stopped going up either
Have a good day everyone
Mark
ive just come back from florida
where its a massive $3 a gallon
or a whopping £1.50
and its a bloody site warmer
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Originally posted by mookaloid
It makes my blood boil
I hope that lorry drivers will protest and they have my support.
My fuel bill has just gone up by £50 per month in the last few weeks and there is no sign that it has stopped going up either
Have a good day everyone
Mark
I don't see why the government don't just set a "target cost" for fuel and adjust the tax accordingly depending on the price of
crude- rather like they're doing with the Bank of England and setting interest to control inflation. I suppose they worry if they did that OPEC
would increase the cost up to that limit!!
Still, life never was fair. Consider this, 10 years ago estate agents charged 2%. Average house price was what £100k Now 10 years later, house prices
have gone up exponentially (average price £250k?), they're still charging 2%. So estate agents who 10 years ago getting 2k per house sale now
getting 5k....That sound fair to anyone here?? A flat rate regardless of house prices would suit everyone except the estate agent....
Surely any form of protest will now have you branded as a terrorist and punished accordingly?
[Edited on 12/11/07 by MikeRJ]
You don't need to be militant to get the government to see sense.
The peole in power will never listen to the likes of us, the only thing that they take notice of are other people in power.
So you simple choose one of the large oil companies like Shell or BP and you boycott their forecourts and go elsewhere. I bet it wouldn't take
long before the CEO/chairman of the company singled out to contact the government and seeing how much money the politcal parties get in donations etc
they are much more likely to take notice.
What do you think of that for an idea?
i've said it before and i'll say it again this country is a joke why dont the government take all my wages and give me back what they think
i can survive on so that the they can give my money to the people who dont want to work. my wife and i need two cars as i work shifts and she needs to
pick the kid up from nursey but we have been thinking of ways to get rid of one(no not the kid the car) as the running costs are going through the
roof and things are only going to get worse now that we will be paying for the commonwealth games (another waste of money) and our income tax will
prob go up and!!!!!!!!
im going off on one so im going to stop and take a deap breath
I've thought before answering this post, but I can't do it without sounding smug, so I apologise for that.
I assume that you're all handy with spanners, right ?
And it's the cost of the fuel that's bugging you ?
Do like I did, get your spanners out, converty your car to a cheaper fuel and reap the benefits.
My last tenner of my chosen fuel took me 120 miles.
A tenner of petrol would have taken me around 75 miles.
My fuel costs 46% the price of petrol on the forecourt.
I knew earlier this year that I would be spitting feathers once petrol got around the £1 a litre mark and decided to do something about it.
That is all.
spill the beans then what you using
Your lpg conversion is cheap to run now but my super cynical brain says that if a LARGE proportion of motorists had an lpg car it would mysteriously
rise in cost to suit how much cash the government need.
Diesel used to always be the the poor / cheap relation to petrol didn't it?
Is it right that in France the price of diesel is always set a certain percentage below petrol?
I really hesitate to say, because I'm becoming a bit of an evangalist for it and almost boring myself far less everyone else.
LPG
Sequential injection, just like the normal petrol system. Kit cost me 400 quid.
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Originally posted by davie h
spill the beans then what you using
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Originally posted by zilspeed
I really hesitate to say, because I'm becoming a bit of an evangalist for it and almost boring myself far less everyone else.
LPG
Sequential injection, just like the normal petrol system. Kit cost me 400 quid.
Some insurers insist on a safety check. Some don't. Liverpool Victoria appear not to give a stuff.
I t really annoys me when the News programmes and papers are blaming the cost of crude when the actual cost of the petrol is still only about 35p a
litre to the garages, the rest is all tax .Maybe the garages should start showing thge price as 35p per litre plus 70p tax to make the general public
realise .
Has anyone also noticed the price of rapeseed oil has recently increased by a large amount? is it a supply and demand thing as the supermarket shelves
usually seem to be empty of the large 3 litre bottles recently.
Paul.
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Originally posted by paulf
Has anyone also noticed the price of rapeseed oil has recently increased by a large amount? is it a supply and demand thing as the supermarket shelves usually seem to be empty of the large 3 litre bottles recently.
Paul.
I run LPG and the only provider here is Shell. LPG was costing just under half of petrol price. Yesterday LPG was 51.9 per litre and unleaded £1.09.
Why has LPG gone up so much!
Caber
lpg. i thought that maybe you were going down the veggie oil route
I reckon that veggie oil will eventually outprice itself because it's seen as a relatively easy alternative choice.
LPG is seen as a leftfield, slightly nutty choice. this suits me fine. Most people think of an LPG tank as a bomb whilst having a plastic petrol tank
in there which is constructed to a far less exacting standard.
Caber, is there not a Morrisons near you ?
P.S. It was after speaking to you that I decided I would be going LPG
PaulF :
yes that would be an interesting idea to see fuel priced with the tax breakdown , 'cos like you , I get very annoyed and think it is an insult to
my intelligence when the gov. rattle on about the those 'baddies' putting up the price of crude oil..............
If Mr Bush taxed the yanks the same he'd be gone in no time!!!!!!!!!!1
my five pence
looks good
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Originally posted by MikeRJ
Surely any form of protest will now have you branded as a terrorist and punished accordingly?
[Edited on 12/11/07 by MikeRJ]
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Originally posted by Confused but excited.I discovered that I am on Special Branche,s poo list, as a political activist - and proud of it!.
I run LPG in the transit. 60L tank costs me about £30. However I have to agree with the above statements, if it becomes popular then the price will
increase exponentially. The cost has increased from 45.9p to 51.9 over the last week or so...
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Originally posted by nige
ive just come back from florida
where its a massive $3 a gallon
or a whopping £1.50....
Where are these lpg kits available from ?
I wouldn't mind looking at one,see if it's worth it for me
The price of veggie oil has gone from 56p generally to 68p since it started flying off the supermarket shelfs.
We go to Tesco in Durham couple of times a week and theres NEVER any 3L bottles on the shelf. When they have it in you do see the odd empty lying in
the car park!
I was buying a 20L box in Macro for £9.60 but even that has gone up to £12.15....
its to be expected sadly! I would by some myself for the sprinter but a breakdown would cost me far more than i could hope to save, so to me its not worth the risk.
It sounds as if i will have to get a Macro card then, as morrisons is now 68p a litre so hardly worth the effort.
I also think I may need to work out a fuel preheating system for the cold weather.
Paul.
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Originally posted by coozer
The price of veggie oil has gone from 56p generally to 68p since it started flying off the supermarket shelfs.
We go to Tesco in Durham couple of times a week and theres NEVER any 3L bottles on the shelf. When they have it in you do see the odd empty lying in the car park!
I was buying a 20L box in Macro for £9.60 but even that has gone up to £12.15....
I did hear that customs and excise were changing the law relating to low volume users / producers of veggie oil based diesel as the cost of collecting
the tax was becoming an issue. ie low / tax free for the first qty of litres. Not sure about the exact details though.
A few years back a mate of mine had a Fina petrol station. I was amazed at just how little he made from fuel sales. On its own the fuel sales didnt
support him being open. He had to make the shop viable to give him a wage from it. Eventully he closed up as it wasnt worth the effort.
some good postings here i liked the nazi goverment 1
http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1798952007
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Originally posted by chris mason
your not even safe with Lpg, when it was 1st launched in a big way a few years or so ago, it was a 3rd the price of unleaded, it's now approx 1/2 the price, it wont be long before it's 2/3rds the price and then guess what, it will cost the same as unleaded.