garage of the year
emsfactory - 15/1/08 at 04:47 PM
Took the GF's punto for an MOT today,
its been sold and she was putting a new MOT on for the new owner.
It failed on one front hub nut sheared and one on the other side had stripped.
Brilliant! There goes my wednesday.
Then the guy says 'you know your camshaft is bone dry?'
'no' says I.
He say ' it can happen if the oil is not change regularly enough and the feed can get blocked up. Just clean it out'
Fair enough. I then told him it had the head gasket changed not that long ago, could that be an issue?
He says 'Bet they put it on upside down.'
So I pulled the rocker cover off and turned it over, no oil. i took the feed tube out a and turned it over, no oil. Ithen got a length of welding wire
and put it down the feed hole and guess where it stopped? Bang on the head gasket line. Swish!
So on top of the garage snapping various clips that hold the rad filler steady, the airbox on, the camshaft bearing cap having one bolt finger tight
they haven't put the effing gasket on properly!
In 'professionals' we trust.
Confused but excited. - 15/1/08 at 04:57 PM
Take it back and get them to put it all right!
Get litigious on their ass.
(Note to self; Stop watching so many American mo..films).
emsfactory - 15/1/08 at 05:01 PM
It is going back. The phone calls have begun.
The bloke in the MOT place says you cant just punch a hole through the gasket.
Anyone know why not?
jollygreengiant - 15/1/08 at 05:18 PM
When the garages pay peanuts then expect the 'technicians' to be ......................
When I worked for one of the national chains I had to re-work an Escort turbo Diesel that only a week earlier had had the cambelt(s) replaced.
The re-work was required because the cambelt failed. The previous monkey had done a sterling job, until he fitted the alternator drive belt,
............. with the ribs outwards.
As the engine was run the belt crept across the pulley and bit of rubber shaved off and when into the covers. This its self was not a major problem,
............. until it got to one of the major cords, ............Snap went the belt when he started it and £1500 later I let it drive away happy as
Larry.
As said previously take it back to the Garage that did the work, speak to the manager and of course you will want a courtesy car until the re-work is
completed to your satisfaction.
Debris in the oil way is a bad idea.
COREdevelopments - 15/1/08 at 05:20 PM
if theres no oil gettin to the camshaft surely it would of been noisey and done abit of damage by now? most likely reason is if you pierce a hole in
the gasket it will damage it, the correct holes in most head gaskets have ther own sealing ring around them if you get what i mean?
and as jollygreengiant says debris in oil ways will only cause more problems.
rob
[Edited on 15/1/08 by COREdevelopments]
focijohn - 15/1/08 at 05:57 PM
was it a main dealer that did the head gasket?
Mansfield - 15/1/08 at 09:34 PM
'It failed on one front hub nut sheared and one on the other side had stripped.'
That doesn't sound too good either - how did that happen?
hillbillyracer - 15/1/08 at 10:20 PM
Stipping & sheaing hub nuts will take a fair bit of force to acheive!
I suppose you could punch a hole through the gasket but as said the correct hole will have a ring of sealer bonded to the gasket & it may leak,
but then that would make it leak now too. The debris in the oil from making a hole in the gasket isnt a good thing but it's way better than no
oil at all to the cam!
On the other hand it's someone else's fault so you're likely doing the right thing & making them put it right. Bugger if the sale
is lost over it though.
Simon - 16/1/08 at 01:46 AM
In addition to what JGG says, you'll also be wanting them to buy the car off you as a result of (potentially) a lost sale.
ATB
Simon
emsfactory - 16/1/08 at 08:50 AM
It wasn't a main dealer, was an independant.
I am not sure how the hub nuts went. You would think you would notice if you broke them when tightening.
David Jenkins - 16/1/08 at 08:57 AM
If they were fitted far too tight, they can break a little later when the wheel hits a bump.
My prefered tyre suppliers in Ipswich are quite good - they'll use an air-gun to get the nuts off, but a hand wrench to re-fit them, together
with a torque wrench to finish them off.
I've been to other places where they use an air gun to fit the nuts, and I've been unable to undo them with a 3-foot breaker bar!
emsfactory - 16/1/08 at 11:15 AM
That could well be it.
Simon - 18/1/08 at 02:14 AM
OT slightly
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I've been to other places where they use an air gun to fit the nuts, and I've been unable to undo them with a 3-foot breaker bar!
Friend at work has just had to get the landlords forklift front tyre repaired as we need to use it, and he was jumping on the end of a 10' bar to
undo nuts
ATB
Simon
jollygreengiant - 20/1/08 at 07:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by emsfactory
It failed on one front hub nut sheared and one on the other side had stripped.
Just as a matter of thought HOW could the mot station be this specific about the reason for failure with out removal of said items as during mot they
are NOT allowed to remove OR adjust anything. Also by hub nuts do they mean wheel nuts. If they meant hub huts then the reason for failure would be
Excessive play at wheel bearing and if they meant wheel nuts then reason for failure would be wheels insecurely mounted.
Or it could just be that I am miss-reading things.