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locogeoff - 25/1/08 at 02:03 PM

Hello

I had a temporary crown fitted on Tuesday, and its just come off but not broken, any advice anyone can give as my dentist seems to have taken a early bath for the weekend.

Regards

Geoff


fesycresy - 25/1/08 at 02:10 PM

Loctite ?


graememk - 25/1/08 at 02:11 PM

PU ?


russbost - 25/1/08 at 02:13 PM

This is going to sound like rubbish but it's the truth - honest. I stuck one back on once with a tiny drop of superglue stayed on for about 3 months till I got round to seeing the dentist, probably not to be highly recommended as superglue cotains cyanide IIRC but I'm still here to tell the tale with no adverse effects!


Mr Whippy - 25/1/08 at 02:13 PM

From experience, superglue would have been just as effective as some of the glues the dentists use. I was originally invented as a surgical glue.

Medical uses
The use of cyanoacrylate glues in medicine was considered fairly early on. Eastman Kodak and Ethicon began studying whether the glues could be used to hold human tissue together after surgery. In 1964, Eastman submitted an application to use cyanoacrylate glues to seal wounds to the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Soon afterward Dr. Harry Coover's glue did find use in Vietnam—reportedly in 1966, cyanoacrylates were tested on-site by a specially trained surgical team, with impressive results. In an interview with Dr. Coover by the Kingsport Times-News, Coover said that the compound demonstrated an excellent capacity to stop bleeding, and during the Vietnam War, he developed disposable cyanoacrylate sprays for use in the battlefield.

“ If somebody had a chest wound or open wound that was bleeding, the biggest problem they had was stopping the bleeding so they could get the patient back to the hospital. And the consequence was—many of them bled to death. So the medics used the spray, stopped the bleeding, and were able to get the wounded back to the base hospital. And many, many lives were saved. ”
—Dr. Harry Coover


The original Eastman formula was not FDA approved for medical use, however, because of a tendency to cause skin irritation and to generate heat. In 1998 the FDA approved 2-octyl cyanoacrylate for use in closing wounds and surgical incisions. Closure Medical has developed medical cyanoacrylates such as Dermabond, Soothe-N-Seal and Band-Aid Liquid Adhesive Bandage.

Toxicity

Cyanoacrylates bond skin and eyes in seconds. The National Toxicology Program and the United Kingdom Health and Safety Executive have concluded that the use of ethyl cyanoacrylate is safe and that additional study is unnecessary.[3] 2-octyl cyanoacrylate degrades much more slowly due to its longer organic backbone which slows the degradation of the adhesive enough to remain below the threshold of tissue toxicity. Due to these toxicity issues, 2-octyl-cyanoacrylate is used for sutures.

Cyanoacrylates give off vapor which is irritating to eyes, mucous membranes and respiratory system. ACGIH assign a Threshold Limit Value exposure limit of 0.2 parts per million. On rare occasions inhalation may cause asthma. There are a wide variety of adhesives of which different cyanoacrylate formulations may be a component. It is wisest to obtain and consult a manufacturers material safety data sheet for a product in order to consider the specific hazards associated with exposure.



[Edited on 25/1/08 by Mr Whippy]


David Jenkins - 25/1/08 at 02:23 PM

Our dentist gives an emergency destist's number when the out-of-hours answerphone's on... does yours?


02GF74 - 25/1/08 at 02:23 PM

seems like superglue would keep it as temporary measure until you can get it seen to, maybe too permanently.

make sure the area is dry - dentists use a small air line.


Mr Whippy - 25/1/08 at 02:33 PM

breath out when fitting, no I mean it, that stuff stings


pewe - 25/1/08 at 03:05 PM

Wouldn't Lock and Seal work better?
Just be careful you don't drop it in your mouth in the wrong place - a tooth crown stuck to your lip for the weekend might cramp your style.
Even worse to get the stuff sticking your lips together - better make sure you have the mobile handy or someone who can summons help.
BOL. Pewe


David Jenkins - 25/1/08 at 03:16 PM

Just remember that your dentist will want to remove the temporary crown fairly soon!

Preferably leaving the remains of your original tooth where it is...


irvined - 25/1/08 at 03:19 PM

A bit of heat to help things fit never hurt - you can get those little mini-blow torches for soldering and burning your fingers pretty easily - should do the job.

If it all goes wrong, you can always grab some meths and some of these from the toolbox



Ouch - mind yourself lad!


[Edited on 25/1/08 by irvined]


TGR-ECOSSE - 25/1/08 at 03:32 PM

I have heard of superglue being used before. I have even used it myself to seal cuts. You could always wait till Monday but in the meantime


spaximus - 25/1/08 at 04:12 PM

If it just a temporary crown ie the plastic type, unless you are in pain just leave it off. I have had loads done and have never managed to keep one on for the two weeks it takes to get the new crown. Mine usually have the nerve removed so really for me it is mearly asthetic.


ditchlewis - 25/1/08 at 04:28 PM

a mate of mine used to use super glue all the time he once even stuck his tongue to his teeth

i personally use suger free chewing gum when my caps come off

ditch


Litemoth - 25/1/08 at 05:10 PM

Two options:
1. buy a dental repair kit that includes the 'cement' which is meant for this job. The larger Chemists sell them.

2. Go along to the out of hours dental service for your area. There is an obligation for them to provide the same out of hours service as your doctor.


Confused but excited. - 25/1/08 at 06:48 PM

Contrary to the movies, cyanide is not toxic when used to glue body parts together, so it doesn't work on poisoned arrows/quarrels. It is however, VERY toxic if ingested.
I would strongly recommend that you KEEP IT OUT OF YOUR GOB!


onzarob - 25/1/08 at 08:15 PM

I'm no dentist, but I knock my from teeth out at 8, so i had my caps replace a few times I'm now 35

If its a temporary crown then it won't be on more than a week as they can aggravate the gum, i suggest pushing a little to see if friction will hold it, has worked for me on a number of occasions. id not use a bit of gum.

Don't use anything to strong as it means more drilling later


speedyxjs - 25/1/08 at 08:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Confused but excited.
Contrary to the movies, cyanide is not toxic when used to glue body parts together


I can think of a few body parts it might not work on


iscmatt - 25/1/08 at 08:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by graememk
PU ?


Only if its not gone off! I got some today to glue on some grill to the bonnet, put it in the gun and its all gone off! a day wasted, went for a drive instead! - with a huge hole in the bonnet