Well i knew some universities offer some real mickey mouse "degree" courses but this is really taking the biscuit!! If i did this course i'd be ashamed to call myself a graduate!!!

Mickey Mouse

Now i for one am all for doing away with putting degree students into huge debt but only for "proper" degree courses.

You're right to say "proper" degree courses. The article refers to "foundation degrees". These are 2 year courses and I guess are broadly equivelent to HNDs. Why they have to call them degrees I don't know because it just devalues the bachelor's degree.

A slight asside, in these days of equality, Shouldn't female students be awarded spinster degrees instead?

The sad thing is that a retired teacher over here keeps telling me that education has never been better in the UK!!!!

It hasn't!
It's just that it was absolutely appalling before!

Steve

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The thing is, i think its largly a good idea.
- Give sales people a bit of the background, and the bigger picture, and all that.
- Ditto if you must, giving fast food workers a chance to get some sort of qualifition and understanding beond just being able to flip burgers badly.


However my grip, as a second year mech eng masters student on a year sandwich with an large engineering company , is that rather than come up with a name for them. They have reused names from a higher up leval of qualification.
- Its bad enough that people think im a mechanic. Im now waiting for the time someone compairs that to working for a bed company on day release to a university collage. Haha.

No, i mean, in all honesty its actually a good thing, and i dont have a problem with mechanics, or even people thinking that i am one.

However i do think it is mistleasing and unnessary, and unfair, to be so careless in the naming of such things.
- Ditto calling plumber 'heating engineers' of cause.
- You dont get nurses calling themself 'bloodtest and urine sample' doctors. Often...


Daniel

here is how to sell a bed.

shop assistant 1: Can I help you sir.
customer. I'd like to buy a bed.
shop assistant 1: Please go to our furntiure department on the second floor.

customer now on second floor.
shop assistant 2: Can I help you sir?
customer. Yes, I'd like to buy a bed.

shop assistant: Well you've come to the right place. Over there we have a selection of bed, please try them out. But don't make me say matress.


customer after lying on a few beds.

customer. I think I take this one. How much is it?
shop assistant: This one is £ 350, we can do 6 mohtns interest free.
customer. Excellent. I'll take one *

cusotmer fills out paper work and is told that deliver takes 4 to 6 weeks.

Bed sold.

Harly need for any specialist training in my opinion. Talk about dumbing down.

* or more likley customer walks off and buys the bed on the internet.

[Edited on 14/4/08 by 02GF74]

Perhaps they'll be trained in orthopedics and will give advice on what firmness of matress to sell you. Hmmm. Perhaps a GCSE in selling beds would be enough.

They'd be better off doing a Ba (or MBa!) in Business Studies - now that IS a hard course, and worth something at the end of it, both for the employer and the student.

If you had an MBA, you wouldn't take a job selling beds.

Well, if it was a decent company they'd spend time and money developing their staff, to Ba standard for the better people.

But in this case, I very much doubt it!

[Edited on 14/4/08 by David Jenkins]

err its not a course on how to sell beds that just the headline, its course on retail managment for mangers....

Fair comment!

(note to self: read the whole article before spouting off...)

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Fair comment!

(note to self: read the whole article before spouting off...)

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And don't call me Shirley!