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not really a surprise....
02GF74 - 2/5/08 at 07:30 AM

... that people have had enough


nib1980 - 2/5/08 at 07:41 AM

yeah the irony i, they dont like conservatives either, it's just they like labour less!


Mr Whippy - 2/5/08 at 07:48 AM

Well I've never voted in my entire life, but then next elections I will, just to help get rid off them.

I doubt the Monster Raving Looney Party could have done a worse job


paulf - 2/5/08 at 08:15 AM

Only problem is now that they know they have no support they can do there worse for the next 2 years without having to worry about loosing votes at the next election, as they know they wont get in.
In 2 years time when they finnaly call an election they will have screwed the country so much it will take another generation to sort out.
The decent thing to do would be to call an election now but they arent decent and wont do it .
Paul.


smart51 - 2/5/08 at 08:33 AM

People are a bit silly really. They don't like the national government so they vote against "the party" in local elections. Then, they wonder why their bins are only emptied once a fortnight etc. etc.

It just makes too much sense for some people, voting in local elections on local issues. Me, I was more concerned at the stupid building of speed bumps along the main road near my house, the refusal of planning permission for a super market near my house and the bright idea of the council to bus kids miles from the city centre to the school near me, only to bus the kids near me miles to schools nearer the city centre. Gordon Brown has no real concern or influence over such things so why worry how good / bad he has been when voting locally?


woodster - 2/5/08 at 09:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by paulf
Only problem is now that they know they have no support they can do there worse for the next 2 years without having to worry about loosing votes at the next election, as they know they wont get in.
In 2 years time when they finnaly call an election they will have screwed the country so much it will take another generation to sort out.
The decent thing to do would be to call an election now but they arent decent and wont do it .
Paul.


well said .. very sad but true


Dangle_kt - 2/5/08 at 10:03 AM

That link has a funny video, where he pretends not to hear the question just because its a "sticky one".

I'd say that if they get battered in the locals then Labour will be more open to change, as it will be a case of change in the next 2 years or loose. I suppose its a case of hoping that the change comes in a positive way on issues likes fuel, being tougher on criminals, and booting out the nanny state "advisors"!!


Mr Whippy - 2/5/08 at 10:40 AM

If they see that they are going to get chucked out it they'll do the usual - promise to do this and that, basically anything they think you want to hear, might even change their name to - 'New and improved Labour' then magically as though they never even said it, not make any changes except invent new way to tax us.


Fozzie - 2/5/08 at 10:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by smart51
People are a bit silly really. They don't like the national government so they vote against "the party" in local elections. Then, they wonder why their bins are only emptied once a fortnight etc. etc.

It just makes too much sense for some people, voting in local elections on local issues. Me, I was more concerned at the stupid building of speed bumps along the main road near my house, the refusal of planning permission for a super market near my house and the bright idea of the council to bus kids miles from the city centre to the school near me, only to bus the kids near me miles to schools nearer the city centre. Gordon Brown has no real concern or influence over such things so why worry how good / bad he has been when voting locally?


Yes I agree, that is how it should be, and exactly how I explained the difference between local government and national government to my kids as they were growing up.......

But.........

This time, I think that the nation has voted in a way that they 'think' the government will take notice, it seems that the nation feels that they are prepared to put up with, maybe, a change in their local governing council for a year, as it seems, as though it is now the only way we as a nation, can voice our opinions. This government over the years, has stripped away many of our previous 'freedoms to protest' in the guise of 'riots' and 'terrorism' threats...

Sorry for the rant... ......and all IMHO of course!

Fozzie

ETA..... I wonder if 'call me Dave' et al will call for a general election, on the grounds of a national vote of 'no confidence' in the present government?....or has that 'right' been removed too?

[Edited on 2-5-08 by Fozzie]


Mr Whippy - 2/5/08 at 12:03 PM

I'm still in favour of putting Blair up in front of a firing squad for treason


caber - 2/5/08 at 05:18 PM

What astonishes me is that politics in this country has been a ping pong game between two parties that, originally, had different ideals bit now seem to be more or less exactly the same. Why don't more people vote for other parties such as the Lib dems, Greens or whatever then we could have a hung Parliament and there have to be agreements between at least 2 out of 3 parties to get legislation through. This is beginning to work in Scotland with the SNP having a majority of 1 they have to get at least one other group on board to get anything through which moderates their policies and allows the other parties to propose policies that SNP agree to support in return. This is much more like democracy then the Westminster farce.

Caber