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This electric car looks impressive!
David Jenkins - 29/5/08 at 11:53 AM

Nice looking car, and sounds impressive. I didn't see the cost mentioned though... but they'll take a £15000 deposit off you.

linky



[Edited on 29/5/08 by David Jenkins]


worX - 29/5/08 at 11:58 AM


Mr Whippy - 29/5/08 at 12:00 PM

can't really fault the looks but like you say where on earth is the price tag? £15k deposit?? err I could get a very nice car for that alone




Car 0-60mph Power
Jaguar 4.2 XKR convertible 5.0 Secs 420 bhp
Toyota Prius [Hybrid] 1.5 T4 10.9 Secs 76 bhp
Electric Lightning GT 4.0 Secs 700+ bhp


Why do I get the feeling this is not going to be much less than a Ferrari?? God's why can't they make a decent electric car for Jo Public, every time I see an electric car it's some impractical speed machine that boasts top speeds but rubbish range, there's speed cameras everywhere what is the point of a 130mph 700bhp electric car?!

Actually the more I read the dumber it gets, they don't even mention the range, is made from aluminium honeycomb composite so will cost the earth. Doesn't even sound like it’s even ready for production, just some chancers trying to build up enough investments in the form of deposits to get going. Basicly some unrealistic pipe dream. How many folk who can even afford to buy it are going to be concerned about fuel costs, more likely they want a big show off car that makes a noise...



[Edited on 29/5/08 by Mr Whippy]


David Jenkins - 29/5/08 at 12:10 PM

250 miles range, 10 minutes re-charge? That's not bad.

I'm sure it's not going to be cheap though. Maybe those fancy batteries will drift down to simpler cars eventually...


Mr Whippy - 29/5/08 at 12:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
250 miles range, 10 minutes re-charge? That's not bad.

I'm sure it's not going to be cheap though. Maybe those fancy batteries will drift down to simpler cars eventually...


so what gauge of wire will you need for that current flow? I'm sure someone on here will have fun working out how many hundreds of amps that is

[Edited on 29/5/08 by Mr Whippy]


smart51 - 29/5/08 at 12:18 PM

They use a new battery technology with nanometre sized electrode geometry. The car company has signed an exclusive deal with the battery company to buy everything they can make for a few years.

I looked at the motors for an electric car project of my own. They're not cheap though. Not even nearly. They weigh the same as a conventional hub, upright, disc and calliper but also contain an electric motor and controller that has a regenerative brake that works down to zero speed so there is no need for a mechanical brake other than a handbrake. The perfect system.


iank - 29/5/08 at 12:29 PM

Wasn't the Lightning originally designed and built by Ronart? Used to have a tuned Jag V12 IIRC.


russbost - 29/5/08 at 12:59 PM

250 miles range maintaining a steady 70mph (therefore no regenerative charging) for 3 & 1/2 hrs (approx250 miles) would need at least 75kW hours even at near perfect energy transfer rates, sticking that back in in 10 minutes is going to be interesting!!!!
Something doesn't add up whatever battery technology you're using - perhaps I should make Furore Cars a limited company? Now, who'd like to cough up a £15k deposit they'll never see again!?!!


Mr Whippy - 29/5/08 at 01:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by russbost
250 miles range maintaining a steady 70mph (therefore no regenerative charging) for 3 & 1/2 hrs (approx250 miles) would need at least 75kW hours even at near perfect energy transfer rates, sticking that back in in 10 minutes is going to be interesting!!!!
Something doesn't add up whatever battery technology you're using - perhaps I should make Furore Cars a limited company? Now, who'd like to cough up a £15k deposit they'll never see again!?!!


30 large batterys, 30 fast chargers and 30 plugs and a meter turning at turbine speeds

does it fly or turn into a huge robot as well??


smart51 - 29/5/08 at 01:34 PM

This is the battery manufacturer's figure. You can charge the batteries up really quickly due to the nanoscale electrode geometry. The chances of having a charger that can do it are slim.

quote:
Originally posted by russbost
250 miles range maintaining a steady 70mph (therefore no regenerative charging) for 3 & 1/2 hrs (approx250 miles) would need at least 75kW hours even at near perfect energy transfer rates, sticking that back in in 10 minutes is going to be interesting!!!!
Something doesn't add up whatever battery technology you're using - perhaps I should make Furore Cars a limited company? Now, who'd like to cough up a £15k deposit they'll never see again!?!!


Stuart_B - 29/5/08 at 01:53 PM

the desing is good.

the realy question is what do you reckon the price will be, when it it is a 15k depost.

50k upward??

stuart


mr henderson - 29/5/08 at 02:12 PM

Nice photo-realistic rendering, they might find actually building the car a little more difficult, and they're not doing that with my £15,000 (not that I've got it anyway!)

John


Mr Whippy - 29/5/08 at 02:16 PM

I think it’s safe to reach the following conclusions –

1)Its never even been built
2)Its still under development
3)It still requires investment
4)No price has been finalised as it still being developed
5)No major backing has been given by any manufacturer
6)It’s got very limited market appeal
7)Performance, charging and range figures are very suspect
8)Most likely its dead in the water as a commercial product

Anyone handing over £15,000 for a pipe dream needs their head examined.

However for a mere £10k deposit you can pre book your next ride. It uses the latest in technology (some still under development), goes a crazy speeds and only uses a tiny crystal for power. Price to be finalised...

I promise not to disappear with you money, honest

Image deleted by owner




[Edited on 29/5/08 by Mr Whippy]


coozer - 29/5/08 at 03:06 PM

Sorry, but I prefer the Tesla

Tesla Roadster


David Jenkins - 29/5/08 at 03:17 PM

What a bunch of cynics you all are!



I hope it does appear, and it's a success for them - but I don't think I'll be shelling out £15K just yet (even if I had it to spare!)


Krismc - 29/5/08 at 03:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by coozer
Sorry, but I prefer the Tesla

Tesla Roadster


i agree its nicer but........

quote:
Reservations for the 2009 Tesla Roadster...
2009 Roadster base price: $109,000*
Wait time to delivery is approximately 12 months, A $60,000 reservation fee is required to secure your position



EXPENSIVE once you add uk TAX


Alan B - 29/5/08 at 03:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I think it’s safe to reach the following conclusions –

1)Its never even been built
2)Its still underdevelopment
3)It still requires investment
4)No price has been finalised as it still being developed
5)No major backing has been given by any manufacturer
6)It’s got very limited market appeal
7)Performance, charging and range figures are very suspect
8)Most likely its dead in the water as a commercial product

Anyone handing over £15,000 for a pipe dream needs their head examined.........

snipped




Very cynical.....

And yet probably dead right.......


Dusty - 29/5/08 at 06:06 PM

Range at night in winter with the heater, wipers, radio and lights on is a little less than pathetic.
If you hit a tree at 40 do you get half a ton of batteries in the back of your head?

[Edited on 29/5/08 by Dusty]


russbost - 29/5/08 at 06:17 PM

Mr Whippy, 10k is a bargain for a ride in space - do you take Paypal


Simon - 29/5/08 at 07:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Krismc
EXPENSIVE once you add uk TAX


Ahh, but just to prove his rfl hikes and taxes generally are to make the country greener, he will waive all claim to any taxes on electric vehicles

ATB

Simon


Syd Bridge - 29/5/08 at 08:11 PM

I was working on an electric project up until mid last year, when the old boy I was doing it for up and died!

To put that unobtainable sportscar thing in perspective, this little thing was about the size of a Fiat 125 (used the 125 screen), weighed 520kg's all up, including batteries, range of 120 miles @30mph, or 80 miles @50mph.

The batteries took overnight to charge with a purpose built charger at 39 volts, and only cost about 80p for a full recharge on Economy 7 electric.

The kwh figures mentioned by someone above may well be right, so the charger would have to be putting out 1000's of amps, and at that rate any battery will cook real quick, due to internal resistance. To recharge in 10mins would need a super refrigerated setup, to cool the batteries.

A pretty car that sports thing, but all pie in the sky otherwise. Maybe it's being built by those Nigerians, with all the spare cash they want us to launder?

Cheers,
Syd.


Mr Whippy - 29/5/08 at 10:32 PM

Nigerians, exactly what I was thinking, it’s a scam simply to get gullible fools to part with cash. Bet the pictures are nothing but stolen concept car renderings and the whole site just a made up farce. Like you say there is no way you can cram that much in a battery so quicky without it blowing up in your face.



[Edited on 30/5/08 by Mr Whippy]


t.j. - 30/5/08 at 06:30 AM

I will accept 15.000 now!
So will somebody send me money?

I can offer you some pictures....

A nice site but hey who wants to pay for some idea/air?