Just another nail in the govts coffin, for when total rebellion starts.
I'm sure there are some who will chuckle at my misfortune but a word to all of you who traverse the motorways of this green and pleasant land
!
But particularly beware if you go north of Manchester and you drive anything that is, or looks, expensive.
My 'day' car is an (old) Merc E280 and whilst on my way to Scotland in August on a clear road in good conditions I was 'clocked'
and photo'd by a sneaky B*st*rd of a plod on an M/Way bridge at Carlisle doing 96mph...(should have bloody well seen him then I hear you
say).....
I did or the number would have been somewhat higher...
Anyway, even if it was sneaky.... "fair cop" I thought but...... guess what the learned magistrates at Penrith have decided is fitting
punishment for this heinous crime.....
£500 fine!!!!!......plus £35 costs !!!!!!.......PLUS five yes bloody FIVE penalty points !!!!
I think I'll convert to Burglary or mugging, the penalties are not so harsh !
BL**DY B*ST*RD S*DD*N EFFIN S*NSAB*TCHES !!!!!!
There.......I feel better now
Sorry to hear that mate. Sounds a bit friggin harsh.
Just another nail in the govts coffin, for when total rebellion starts.
Ouch... harse !!! Bastards !!!!! guess they didn't like you.
Annoys me when they come up with imaginary on the spot amounts..
on the bright side, 5 points is much better than 6 cos another 6 isnt a ban. It is a shitter though. I got 6 points for 105 over 2 miles.
ps on the m62 between manc and liverpool there are always cops on bridges with speeders a few yards later to pull ya. i dont even bother speeding
beyond manchester, they've been there every time i go to liverpool...
[Edited on 3/12/03 by JoelP]
You were lucky Joel - over 100 is supposed to be an automatic ban....
I got done 11 years ago for 110 on the A303, when it went to court 6 months later my wife was due to drop at any moment so they let me keep my licence
- however I got a £220 fine plus £30 costs and 6 points - and that was 11 years ago when I was earning MUCH less, maybe you weren't so hard done
by ?
yeah, was a fair cop for me i guess, IIRC a light snow was falling, and i was flashing people out of the way. Bad driving i guess. Had to do a retest
anyway as i had had my license for less than two years back then, and 6 points within two years is a retest.
life goes on i guess. clear road for jonti, they should've been more leniant.
a mate got a 28 day ban for 117, which is preferable in my books.
quote:
Originally posted by protofj
You were lucky Joel - over 100 is supposed to be an automatic ban....
In 1985/6, I was going to see a friend at Manchester Uni. Being skint, and in a hire car (1.6 Cavalier), I was being very careful - sticking to about
55 to conserve fuel.
I got so bored, I missed the M6 (HOW???).
Decided I'd get a move on (to Sheffield then turn left), so floored it.
Was doing an indicated 117, when I saw the flashing lights. Mr P/man was driving a MkII Granda 2.8i, and the first thing he said was - "We had
trouble catching you". My first thought was - "Not buying one of them then".
Anyway, after a little debate - which was conducted in quite a friendly manner, he said "I'll put you down at 100"
Thanks, I said.
£60 fine
£9 costs
3 points
Result
ATB
Simon
quote:
Originally posted by protofj
You were lucky Joel - over 100 is supposed to be an automatic ban........
___________________________________________
Yes that's true and notwithstanding the insurance hike, I've always thought a short ban is better than nursing lots of points with the potential for a six month ban if you crack 12
quote:
Originally posted by protofj
I got done 11 years ago for 110 on the A303, when it went to court 6 months later my wife was due to drop at any moment so they let me keep my licence - however I got a £220 fine plus £30 costs and 6 points - and that was 11 years ago when I was earning MUCH less, maybe you weren't so hard done by ?
Mmmm....yes , must admit I was expecting about £200-£300 as I got £100 for a similar offence on the Northampton bit of the M1 about 15 years ago. (never did like Northampton).but, like you, then I was earning about a quarter of what I earn now so its all relative I suppose. Perhaps it wasn't the Merc's fault after all
Might delete my Douglas Bader quote, it doesn't always apply !!!!
[Edited on 3/12/03 by jonti]
splitrivet - 3/12/03 at 12:29 PMJust the amount of fine you dont need coming up to crimbo.
Seems like theres no consistancy with fines on the motorway I spose a lot of it depends on where you get nabbed.
Some time ago I got done doing 55 MPH in a van on the Chelmsford bypass to all intents and purposes a motorway. The company car I usually drove was in dock and the only thing they could hire me was this van I had no idea there was a 50 MPH limit on vans (which as far as Im aware is still in force) and lost my licence for 6 months under totting up which consequently put me out of work and onto the jam roll.So it could have been worse mate,thats how youve got to look at it I spose.
Cheers,
Bob
stephen_gusterson - 3/12/03 at 12:39 PMI was done 18 years ago for 102 in a 70. made up a story of getting back to see my 18 day old son from an exteneded, unexpected, trip to france. got 60 quid fine. lucky that.
On the other hand, I did get off a 71 in a 60 zone 3 years back. they couldnt touch me. got no points and no fine for speeding.
The secret? refuse to sign the NIP form. Downside is I got 180 quid fine and 3 points. bad plan. What really shagged my defence was getting done for 48 in a 30 2 months after, which blew my 'good citizen, clean license, wasnt me - its a co car with someone else driving', into the weeds.
If you are in ANY doubt that you are gonna get screwed GO TO THE COURT and explain yourself. However far away it is. That way they get to see you are an ordinary guy, you get to grovel, and they get to see that you are sorry and not a speed mad ba%^tard flouting the law (regardless of the facts!). Find out how much a solicitor is. Not as much as loosing a license. I had one on the 102 speeding thing, and it helps. They can see you are serious and understand what you have done. The letter from the employer thing also helps.
The difference between a rubber stamped guilty by letter plea and a well turned out be-suited, grovelling apology to a bunch of magistrates could save you pounds, points and license.....
atb
steve
who will be points free in Jan if he can make it that far
David Jenkins - 3/12/03 at 12:41 PMUnfortunately for each mph over the limit you pay around 10 times as much on motorways than you would on ordinary roads.
This always seems daft to me, as going too fast on an A-road must be far more dangerous than on a motorway.
(must stop looking for logic in motoring regulations)
David
mackie - 3/12/03 at 12:42 PMThat's pretty harsh. I got done for doing 65 down a 40 outside norwich in the middle of the night (it's a very wide, un built up A road) by a police car. I was actually doing around 45 but then this car loomed up behind me, I thought it was a taxi tailgaiting and put my foot down. Then I realised norwich taxi's don't have the blobs on the roof. Then I saw the lights. Bastards. He said he actually clocked me doing 72 but wrote it down as 65, thus saving me a court appearance and more points, so I got away with 3 and the minimum fine. Hohum.
I had no idea you could get an automatic ban for doing > 92mph, and I thought it was just an automatic court appearance...
theconrodkid - 3/12/03 at 12:45 PMi got done for 125 on the A40 in a sunbeam tiger
DaveFJ - 3/12/03 at 01:50 PMFortunately after my big fine and 6 points my insurance conmpany said that speeding on a motorway was a technical offence and didn't load my premium at all
You think we are hard done by? I was caught by a camera on a motorway in holland, I was only doing 5Kmh over the limit and yet my fine was the equivalet of £280 with the threat of crushing my car for non payment!- (happened to loads of squaddies travelling to germany)
Peteff - 3/12/03 at 04:12 PMA friend of mine got done last year, 42 in a 30 then this year 96 in a 50 resulting in a 3 week ban and a couple of hundred fine and costs. No points for the second one though. Never heard of a speed limit on vans only on towing vehicles which still applies to anything pulling a trailer. Not sure if they are allowed to use the third lane on the motorway as artics aren't supposed to.
yours, Pete.
jonti - 3/12/03 at 04:39 PMThe difference between a rubber stamped guilty by letter plea and a well turned out be-suited, grovelling apology to a bunch of magistrates could save you pounds, points and license.....
There's not a rule that 92 or more is a ban - I got caught doing 96 down a dual carriageway (note, not motorway so SP50 offence for
"other/unclassified"
, and got £60 and 3 points despite being young and having a couple of mates in the car. I really thank my lucky stars
for that one, I know it could have been far harsher. I suspect it was because it was a lovely sunny day, and the BiB was in a good mood.
Kingr
it had to happen sometime
sorry that you got such a big fine - in northants is a daily risk as we have every known means of catching speeders from 7 camera vans to a 2 mile
stretch of a43 with SPECS cameras looking at average speed!
problem with a short sharp ban, is that if you ever get another one, its a year. normally, first ban at tottoing up is 6 months, second is 12 months.
So, im assuming a shortie is the first bite of the cherry.
BTW Jonti - you could appeal - depends on how lucky you feel......perhaps a talk to a solicitor in the area to find out the lie of the land might
work?
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by jonti
The difference between a rubber stamped guilty by letter plea and a well turned out be-suited, grovelling apology to a bunch of magistrates could save you pounds, points and license.....
quote:
Originally posted by kingr
There's not a rule that 92 or more is a ban -
Kingr
I once passed a police car at an indicated 130mph on the M62.
He was cruising at 69.9mph between two lorries and I was racing a b@st@rd in a BMW.
Saw him much too late, his fairy lights went on and I kept going, he couldn't get out for the BM so I'd got a half a mile on him, he pulled
the BMW and I went off at the next exit and drove v.....e.......r.......y slowly back to Sheffield. He couldn't have got my number or I would
have been nicked.
If only you could out pace a revenue camera.
This was when I was young and foolish BTW
Cheers
Chris
in that situation id always thought of saying
'n - it wasnt me - did you see that maniac flying down the road just now in a car just like mine'.
If you left their sight, how could they not know if you hadnt been poodling along all day in the slow lane and they just made a mistaken identity.
but, as its you Chris, they would just thow the book at ya - you musta been doing something wrong sometimes.
atb
judge gusto
Totally inappropriate,but.................I have some clockwork masturbating policemen for sale........£3.99 +P&P. Legal to hold to your ear
whilst driving.
Ian
Go on, post a pic, you know you want to.
Kingr
quote:
Originally posted by robinbastd
Totally inappropriate,but.................I have some clockwork masturbating policemen for sale........£3.99 +P&P. Legal to hold to your ear whilst driving.
Ian
do they give u any lee way
ie if the speed limit is 70mph u can do 70+10% or something
the association of cheif police officers have a set of rules that they dont necessarily follow.
its 10% plus 2 mph
so
35
46
57
68
79
are the 'nick points'
a car speedo should NEVER read under, but can be over by quite a lot (20%????).
some speed cams, if not making enough money, can be set to lower limits.
laser vans are accurate to 1mph at 1000 metres.
atb
steve
Re the Cocky Copper.................
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2970222361&category=1467
Ian
I had a bit of a fright last night. 11.45pm, on way home after xmas shopping in london, girlie following in her car, 105mph, over a brow of hill,
brakes on very hard, mr plod in a nice volvo estate! i drove past at 75mphish (thank you mr gusterson for the mph list) praying his lights
wouldn't go on, and they didn't.
very relieved!
shaken, not stirred,
Ned.
i was on the mway the other day, everyone was doing exactly 70mph past a dog van of all things. so i just blended past at 80 anyway, as if a dog handler cares if you roll past...! bloody paranoid buggers!
I hate people like that, think a dog handler or ambulance is about to stop you and do you for doing 80
I just zoom past being careful of who else is about mind
A74 - was blatting along, anchors at 20 paces... and what for the simlar nutters slowing for a
BLOOD DONOR CAR!!!
W*N*E*R*
anyone want to buy some blue flashy lights???
