like I said yesterday,
we're doomed!!
Maybe it is time to panic, cpt Manwairing.
This is something I've wondered about for ages, why have we been getting away with wasting oil based energy for such a long time?
Now, of course, we aren't getting away with it. By we I don't mean us here on this forum, I mean the whole country and indeed the whole
world.
For instance-
how often have you seen BMW X5's (and the others) hurtlng along motorways at 90mph?
how often have your heard about people going to get married not in their local church, but in Las Vegas or some Pacific island?
Driven around a deserted city centre at night, in an absolute blaze of street lighting?
Noticed that most of the cars on the road have badges at the back proudly declaring their ability to consume fuel (e.g. engine size and type, turbo,
number of valves etc)?
One of the thinks I like best about the kit car/special scene is the way we re-use these expensively made components and create cars which are fuel
efficient- and fun.
why have we been getting away with destroying natural habbitats of ather aninamals, deforrestation, pollutimng the sea, rivers lakes, poisoning the
earth and so on and so on....
like I said yesterday,
we're doomed!!
Maybe it is time to panic, cpt Manwairing.
I am surprised at the number of large 4x4’s still on the road and the speeds they continue to be driven. Your right about the wasteful streetlights but I think it is a problem with the bulbs in that they need to heat up before they reach normal brightness so making them light up when needed would require more expensive to run types, a simple IR sensor looking down would be all that is needed to switch them on when needed and would have the advantage that you would know a car was coming miles away.
Never mind , im sure the new £4 billlion aircraft carrirers will be enviromentally friendly and are really needed not just being built to create
10,000 jobs.
Paul.
How long until the BEC vs CEC arguement turns to MPG?
lol - kit cars fuel efficient? are you sure! 
most of us strip off all the bits that make an engine more efficient cos they usually kill the power
as well.
On a slightly different tack....... can we have a few more cheerful threads I'm sick to death of all this doom and gloom 
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Originally posted by mr henderson
One of the thinks I like best about the kit car/special scene is the way we re-use these expensively made components and create cars which are fuel efficient- and fun.
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Originally posted by indykid
driving to work isn't fun, but it is necessary. maybe we need more everyday kitcars....
tom
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Originally posted by D Beddows
lol - kit cars fuel efficient? are you sure!
So am I a criminal for driving a 5 Litre V10 Diesel 4X4? 
Considering you are trying to attract customers to your services, you seem to like making sweeping generalisations about people, getting all hot under
the collar about your political views.
This ain't pistonheads you know. 
[Edited on 3/7/08 by Hammerhead]
quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
how often have your heard about people going to get married not in their local church, but in Las Vegas or some Pacific island?
I think you'll find most 'enthusiastically' driven kit cars do well under 20mpg which isn't exactly fuel efficient!
quote:
Originally posted by Hammerhead
So am I a criminal for driving a 5 Litre V10 Diesel 4X4?
Considering you are trying to attract customers to your services, you seem to like making sweeping generalisations about people, getting all hot under the collar about your political views.
This ain't pistonheads you know.
[Edited on 3/7/08 by Hammerhead]
quote:
Originally posted by Hammerhead
So am I a criminal for driving a 5 Litre V10 Diesel 4X4?
quote:
Originally posted by Hammerhead
Considering you are trying to attract customers to your services, you seem to like making sweeping generalisations about people, getting all hot under the collar about your political views.
quote:
Originally posted by eznfrank
quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
how often have your heard about people going to get married not in their local church, but in Las Vegas or some Pacific island?
I got married in Vegas and then took a further 8 internal flights around the USA oon my honeymoon and it freakin rocked!!! - I can't think of one good reason why I would have got married in a local church???
And just for the record by the end of the year I will have made at least 4 long haul flights and 6 short haul. That's not me being cocky or saying I don't give a stuff about the environment but there's a big world out there, a lot of which is fortunately still very beautiful and if you want to see a bit of it a few times a year you don't have much choice to jump on the old silver bird.
[Edited on 3/7/08 by eznfrank]
its all hype
the planet moves in cycles.
so where is all this extra green tax money going?
to help fund an illegal war.........
make up for the old chancellors' theft.....
pay back illegal donations.........
give the police a back dated pay rise.....
fund more war machines
or just to pay for nannies as secretaries, 2nd houses, etc
i'm sick of all of it...................
this country is in a sh7t state.
whay should we care when no-one else does - especially the damn yanks..........
Strikes me as a bit of a pointless thread thats going nowhere. If I was a mod I'd lock it...but I'm not. 
I think the crisis of late has pushed everything in the right direction..Never mind a few oil burning 4x4s or exotic sportcars that do 10mpg or
enthusiast having fun in some dirty old kitcars with the cats removed. Its the fleetcars that need to be cleaner, the mondeos, corsas etc. They are
being sold by the millions and have a much greater impact. Its the commuting thats the problem, and not the weekend fun. Electric sportscars..but why?
Sportscars make up a tiny fraction of the cars on the road, so let them have their fun, and make some real noise. After all, even the the guy driving
to work in his prius can enjoy the sight and sound of a pagani driving by...
So encourrage the trend of zero emission cars like the new honda, hope everyone else will buy one, and continue to have fun in your toy..
quote:
Originally posted by Hammerhead
So am I a criminal for driving a 5 Litre V10 Diesel 4X4?
it always p"sses me off when some tree huggin bunny lover harps on about green issues ... switching my tv off at night .. tellin me to drive a
small car ... we should use wind power .......... they should have a look at a map of the world we in the uk live on a tinny little country ... what
we as a country do to be green will have bugger all effect on the world
Hee hee, heated rage as usual
I now use the bus to work, partly to save money and also because I found driving to work everyday (I mean sitting in a queue of traffic for 1 & ½
hours) was taking all the enjoyment out of driving. So instead I just use the motor bike, push bike or car in the evenings when the roads are quiet
and get some pleasure again from driving or just cycling along to the shops. Infact I am saving so much money from not driving that I am using that
cash instead to buy a new motorbike, over 3k which was not spent on averaging just 10mph.
Oh and I will point out that it’s not a thing to do with any green issues, I would like the climate to be a hot hotter than it is, then I wouldn’t
have to move abroad
[Edited on 3/7/08 by Mr Whippy]
quote:
Originally posted by Hammerhead
Considering you are trying to attract customers to your services, you seem to like making sweeping generalisations about people, getting all hot under the collar about your political views.
This ain't pistonheads you know.
[Edited on 3/7/08 by Hammerhead]
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Originally posted by woodster
we in the uk live on a tinny little country ... what we as a country do to be green will have bugger all effect on the world
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Originally posted by smart51
quote:
Originally posted by Hammerhead
So am I a criminal for driving a 5 Litre V10 Diesel 4X4?
It depends why you drive a 5 litre V10 diesel. Do you need that size of vehicle, that much engine and 4 wheel drive? If yes, then you're OK. If you could manage happily in a corsa van, on the other hand ...
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Originally posted by TimC
In fairness to Mr H, I hope most have the sense to allow him to maintain his 'user personality' alongside his trader status.
[Edited on 3/7/08 by TimC]
Too many liberal do gooders in this country and that includes people on here...
Its everyones right to buy whatever vehicle they want and travel anywhere they like in the world. We are totally entitled to 'waste' oil as
said if we pay for it. Isn't the whole kitcar/hobby car scene a 'waste' of oil? Its just not the point IMHO.
Oil is millions of years old and a lot cheaper to get out of the ground now than it was 25 years ago. The only reason for high oil prices is greedy
speculation on the stock markets.
Its time governments and other agencies developed some alternative but as oil companies have a vested interest i can't see it happening quick.
We used to have trams, what happened to them? Where they not the most friendly form of city transport? Replaced by buses.
Electric motor technology has been around for a hundred years and all these excuses of powering them to make them usable is nutsack to me. If
they'd invested in battery technology years ago we would be driving electric cars right now, cheaply! BUT, oil companies would loose out so there
you have it. We are reliant on oil not cause we waste it but because they want us too!
I would love to own a Tesla and convert my scooter to battery power but its just not feasable so I will continue to 'waste' the oil until
they tell me to stop, and give me a same cost alternative.
Right then, off to
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
Our country may be tinny but we make up 1% of the world's population, making us the 21st most populous nation out of 190 odd. Not only that, but we are the 5th richest nation and consume more power per head than almost anywhere save the USA. They and the Chinese are the biggest polluters true enough. We won't get them to change unless we do it first. To suggest that we can achieve nothing is a bit defeatist.
' they should have a look at a map of the world we in the uk live on a tinny little country ... what we as a country do to be green will have
bugger all effect on the world'
Exactly. If there's any truth to global warming it's got bog all to do with Britain who's done a great job at cutting emmissions by
allowing it's industries to go to the wall.
Does anyone seriously think we should cut our own throats to set an example for USA, China, India etc, or that a totalitarian regime such as
China's would give a damn what everyone else was doing as long as they were exporting loads of crap. If you want to hurt a country such as this
don't buy it's products. Buy something nice and green instead from Sweden or Germany if you can afford it. I can't say buy British
cos we don't make anything anymore.
From a British point of view the whole global warming thing is being used by the government to screw more taxes out of us to make up for their
economic ineptness and greed.
Anyway when I become the benevolent dictator of the World I'm going to give Scotland full independence and deport Gordon Brown. Might just
make him walk from London to the border as well, just so he doesn't feel guilty about his carbon footprint.
ive said before, that theres no point worrying about oil consumption because theres nothing we can do about it individually. Change will only happen
slowly and will be driven by economics, ie rising prices. There is no point at all getting into a sweat about it. I dont doubt for a moment that every
last drop of oil will get used, so theres nothing we can do for the environment anyway. If someone invented a source of free energy tomorrow, like
cold fusion, and made it freely available to all, oil would still get used because market price would drop to a competetive level.
So to summarise, ALL the oil will be used, and the price of energy in general will reflect market conditions, ie supply and demand.
If you can afford to fuel a 5litre car, well done.
double figures you are not driving very enthusiastically.
quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
I think you'll find most 'enthusiastically' driven kit cars do well under 20mpg which isn't exactly fuel efficient!