I am on the look out for a new toy.
Spotted a nice looking 4x4 on the bay of e, with a pretty poor description / title, but just what I wanted. No bids and 4 hours to go. Emailed the
seller asking about tax and test on it, he responds accordingly.
So I put a bid on it, couple of minutes before the end of the auction, a new bidder enters the fray, and we bid back and forth in the closing minutes.
When it becomes clear that he is willing to spend much more than I am, I back out and let it go.
Auction ended last night.
Got an email from the seller this morning, turns out the other bidder has 0 feedback and is from Holland. He can't pay the deposit by paypal,
but wants the sellers bank details!
Basically the seller has offered me a second chance, if this other buyer falls through.
Whilst I'm happy that I might end up with the car I want, how much should I pay? My first bid? Or my last bid?
Mike
My first guess would be the highest bid that you made that wasn't outbid by the guy from Holland. This sounds like your first bid.
Mike
I would be very wary, the second bidder may well be the owner under an assumed name bidding you up to see what your max bid is then offer you the
"second chance offer" - I would have thought with petrol/diesel prices as they currently are 4 x 4's should be very cheap at the mo.
As regards what you should offer, a second chance offer is your highest bid - however you are under no obligation to go ahead, so you can obviously
offer less if you choose to do so.
Russ
As Russ says, walk away, its an absolute buyers market at the moment, another car meeting your requirements will be along soon. If you are
uncomfotable enough to ask then you have doubts.
Rgds.
Pete.
Depending on how far the car is from you then why not go and have a look at it before parting with any cash / deposit and then treat it as a normal
deal rather than an auction?? Find out what he's looking for for it and decide if its a fair price before treating it as a starting price.
As above, it sounds a bit suspicious that this zero feedback bidder has come along to push the bids up - sounds like an attempt to push your bid
higher has backfired on him.
looks like a shill to me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill#Shills_on_the_Internet
It might not be, but with e-bay if it doesn't look right then best to walk away.
Just my opinion
Matt
Or be cheeky, offer him buttons and see what he does. That will at leas give you an insight into if he was shilling or not.
You are not legally bound to offer what you bid, (as long as you were outbid)
So be cheeky and see what happens.
On the other hand, if you fancy the car, and the price is OK (that price being your highest bid) and you still want it, and it isn't too far to travel to look at it, check out the documents, make sure it's his name and address on the V5 etc etc, then agree to buy it by cash when you get there (take someone with you, of course, especially if it's a lot of cash)
It might all be true. I bought a very nice motorcycle on ebay after loosing to a higher bidder. Top bidder failed to pay, I was offered it for my highest bid, but, said no thanks as my first bid would have won it if it were not for the non payer - and I got it for that -some £500 less than final price. It could be a good buy, just use normal caution.
As said already id try the bid you made just before the new guy stepped in in case he is a mate who was just trying to bid you up.
Is it a double cab high capacity land rover? My mate is in the Land Rover trade and could probs point out some things to look for. He re chassis old
Land rovers and it is amazing how new some of them are. He had a 10 year old one in not so long back. Chassis can look ok underneath but be rotten
through on the tops where they are hard to inspect. Bulk heads need to be in good condition, a sod to replace. Bushes are known to wear. Easy enough
to buy a poly bush kit but of course time consuming to replace at home. Steering boxes can bet a bit lose. High capacity cars can get a lot of heavy
use so be mindful of that.
Farmers love landrovers as they have better load capacity and towing capacity than cheaper jap alternatives so its not unusual for them to pull heavy
trailers a lot of the time.
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Originally posted by oldtimer
Top bidder failed to pay, I was offered it for my highest bid, but, said no thanks as my first bid would have won it if it were not for the non payer.