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Ebay alternatives?
ReMan - 5/10/08 at 08:41 AM

OK so everybody hates Ebay, but most still use it.

What alternative methods do you use for buying or selling anthing?
Other aucton sites, adverts in the local paper or what?
Discuss


tjoh84 - 5/10/08 at 08:45 AM

just ebay for me sorry


dogwood - 5/10/08 at 09:31 AM

Hi
I have been using Ebay for a number of years now.
And to be honest have not had any real problems.
Yes there are a few A/H's on there, but in general I find using it easy and convienent
I have bought everything from a keyring to a car. Well 3 cars to be exact.
I have sold stuff as well, and I think providing you are truthfull in your add there should be no comeback.

I think the only problem with Ebay is Ebay themselves......Bl***y rules don't think it benifits anybody but themselves.
But don't start me on Paypal though

only my opinion
david


02GF74 - 5/10/08 at 10:14 AM

there are oether auction sites but I've not really looked enough at them.

been recently buying CDs from amazon - they do other stuff so depends on what you are after. prices are favourable when compared to ebay and you can buy immediately plus no rip off postage prices (talking about CDs here)

aslo in the past have looked at loot.


scotty g - 5/10/08 at 10:56 AM

I found a website called swapz.co.uk a while ago, registered with them but not actually got round to using them yet as i get on ok with ebay, you might want to check them out though.
Cheers


mangogrooveworkshop - 5/10/08 at 11:11 AM

Fed up with eBay fees? Wish there was a better way to sell? Serena Cowdy looks at the alternatives.

In Is eBay Worth It?, I recently had a look at all the fees faced by those trying to make some cash on the site.

If you're a disgruntled seller, you might want to take your business elsewhere - and there are lots of other websites keen to help you make a few quid.

Some don't charge listing fees, at least one has a free secure payment system, and a few don't charge you anything at all.

But could it be out of the frying pan and into the fire? I'm going to look at three of these alternatives in a bit more depth.
eBid

eBay may dominate the online auction market, but eBid is one of the more sizeable auction sites in hot pursuit.

Many sellers are now choosing to list items on both sites, and some have ditched eBay entirely because eBid costs are lower.

Free listing: It costs nothing to list items on eBid.

What you pay: The site makes its money in two main areas - final value fees and subscriptions.

Sellers can subscribe to eBid in two different ways.

Basic seller: You can subscribe to eBid for free as a basic seller. You'll then be charged a final value fee of 3% of the sale price of each item you sell.

This approach generally makes financial sense if you only plan to sell occasionally.

Seller+: In this case, you pay a subscription fee for a chosen period of time (7 days = £1.99, 30 days = £6.99 and so on).

You can even subscribe for life - normally at a cost of £99.99. Seller+ status also allows you to access various additional site features.

Seller+ subscribers don't pay the 3% final value fee. This could, therefore, be a good choice for you if you think you're going to sell regularly.

Photos: It's usually free to list a photo with your item, although if you choose ‘Gallery' format (only available if you're a seller+), you'll have to pay a final value fee of 2% of the item's selling price.

Payment system: eBid's preferred secure payment partner is Pp pay (several other means of payment, including PayPal, are also available).

As with eBay, you'll have to pay the relevant Pp pay/PayPal transaction fees.

Downside: If eBay's a whale, eBid is still a tiddler - and far fewer buyers currently use it.

However, many sellers are coming to resent eBay's market domination - and eBid and others are feeling the benefit.

Seller fees are far lower, so if you want to encourage some healthy online competition - and send eBay a wake-up call - it's definitely worth a look.

Here's a full breakdown of eBid fees and charges.
Amazon Marketplace

Amazon Marketplace has fast become one of eBay's biggest online rivals. It provides a venue for you to buy and sell new, used and refurbished items - on the same page that Amazon displays the item new.

However, unlike eBay and eBid, it's not an auction site - sellers set the price of each item they list.

Free listing: When using Amazon Marketplace, you don't pay a listing fee. So, if your item doesn't sell, you don't lose any cash.

Plus, listings generally last 60 days (most items on eBay can only be listed for a maximum of ten days before you have to pay to relist them).

What you pay: A completion fee of £0.86; and a closing fee - which is 17.25% of the sales price (11.5% when selling electronic and photo items).

Postage: Amazon sets the postage costs, not you. It takes a fee from the buyer, keeps an ‘administration fee' for itself, and passes the rest on to you as ‘postage credit'.

This can work out as more or less than the actual cost of postage and packaging, so sellers need to accommodate this variance in their product price.

Photos: You can't usually list your own photos next to your item, because Amazon uses single detail pages on the site, where the product details already exist.

With certain products, you can provide a photo link - but they still won't appear next to your advert (they'll be made generally available to anyone browsing in that category).

Free payment system: Amazon operates a secure payment system of its own (the equivalent of PayPal). Unlike PayPal, this service is free for all sellers to use.

Downside: What you can list is somewhat constrained by the choices of category available. For example, there's no section for ‘vehicles', so selling a car or motorbike would prove difficult.

And although you can list an item Amazon doesn't have in its catalogue - you'll have to create your own page for it first.

Here's a full breakdown of Amazon Marketplace fees and charges.
Gumtree

Gumtree was started in 2000 as a local London classified ads and community site. It now covers 60 cities in six countries, with millions of people listing everything from flat rentals, jobs and dating ads to CDs, furniture and motors.

No fees! It costs nothing to sell an item on Gumtree. You just type out the ad, attach a photo (if you want), and post in the relevant category.

What's the catch? Just stay safe when buying or selling stuff in this way. Face-to-face payment - and item handover - is recommended to avoid getting ripped off (either as a buyer or a seller).

For example, Gumtree offers no protection if you post an item and then don't see the cash. For this reason, selling locally is probably the best way forward.

Worrying developments? In 2005, Gumtree was bought by eBay. Its fee-free status, thankfully, remained unaffected.

However, Gumtree is now introducing a facility called ‘Featured Ads'. These are ads that appear in a special section at the top of the listings pages for either three of seven days.

And guess what? You're charged a fee to use this service. The price depends on how long you'd like your ad to appear in this format, and which category it's in.

Of course, there's nothing inherently sinister about this. The prominent placing will probably mean that more people read and respond to your ad.

But let's just hope the free listing option remains firmly in place, too. Gumtree (and eBay) - we're watching you!


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http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites.html

http://www.bonanzle.com/

http://www.adflyer.co.uk

http://www.mystore.com/shop.php

http://www.altectrader.com/

http://dealtent.com/

http://www.usauctionslive.com/

http://www.trademe.co.nz/

http://www.specialistauctions.com/

http://www.treasuresales.com/

http://www.powersellersunite.com/auctionsitewatch.php

http://www.bidville.com/

http://www.moaas.com/

http://www.onlineauction.com/

http://www.overstock.com/

http://www.ioffer.com/

http://www.wagglepop.com/bin/Auction

http://www.auctionquests.com/

http://www.blujay.com/

http://www.plunderhere.com/auction/cgi-bin/Auction

http://www.qxl.com/

http://www.webidz.com/

http://www.hibidder.com/

http://ca.ebid.tv/

http://us.ebid.tv/

http://www.ecrater.com/

http://www.mightybids.com/

http://wensy.com/

http://www.ubid.com/

http://www.intershopzone.com/

http://www.auctionaddict.net/

http://www.auction-warehouse.com/

http://www.quickbargin.com

http://auction.overstock.com/

http://ubidright.com/cgi-bin/Auction

http://www.tazbar.com/

http://www.epier.com/

http://www.ioffer.com/

http://www.ecrater.com/

http://www.cqout.com/

http://www.ebid.net/

http://www.onlineauction.com/

http://specialistauctions.com/

www.ebid.net

www.stormpay.com

www.bidville.com

http://www.hibidder.com/index.php?

http://www.vintagevalue.net/

http://www.froggiebid.com/

http://reallysmartdeals.com/

http://www.99usa.com/

http://www.buyselltrades.com/

http://www.ukbidsaway.co.uk/

http://www.liquidation.com/index.html


http://www.oltiby.com/

Oltiby is an interesting business model... You advertise for what you want and the sellers "bid" or tender to supply you with their goods or services...

Good luck to them too!

[Edited on 5-10-08 by mangogrooveworkshop]


ReMan - 5/10/08 at 11:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by dogwood
Hi
I have been using Ebay for a number of years now.
And to be honest have not had any real problems.
Yes there are a few A/H's on there, but in general I find using it easy and convienent
I have bought everything from a keyring to a car. Well 3 cars to be exact.
I have sold stuff as well, and I think providing you are truthfull in your add there should be no comeback.

I think the only problem with Ebay is Ebay themselves......Bl***y rules don't think it benifits anybody but themselves.
But don't start me on Paypal though

only my opinion
david

I totally aggree, i havent actuall fallen foul of Paypal either, although I've had dealings with Paypal customer services the issue was resolved quickly but that was an apparant security breach, not a non payment/dispute issue.

I buy and sell quite a bit on Ebay and apart from a current minor annoyance mentioned in my my shill bid post, have not had any trouble, apart from 2 non selling sellers!
I just wondered If ther is an alternative that we're all missing out on
I thought I'd ask, as there are so many posts complaining about it , but I don't know that there is a competitive alternative that reaches the masses


cjtheman - 5/10/08 at 12:43 PM

another alternative i use is
adtrader.co.uk
its not an auction
you search what you want ring the seller and buy
sometime its cheaper than ebay
good thing is that you can view before you buy
cheers
colin


Jon Ison - 5/10/08 at 05:03 PM

We sell upwards of £5k goods a month via ebay shop, tried ebid, not a sale as yet.

Yea I know we have a pretty hefty ebay bill once a month but whilst it hurts to pay it compared to a shop the fee's are low and sales are much higher than any walk in trade would be, it allows Mrs to run business from a office at home and a lock up storage facility 2 miles away.

We just have to figure in the fee's to the BIN price so as to keep margins where they need to be, bloody tight at the moment I may add to keep stuff moving.