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VW rant..........
Jon Ison - 3/11/08 at 12:41 PM

Why when a van costs £19k do they supply a jack that wont lift a noddy car ?

Why do you need to jack the van up to get the spare wheel both out and back in ?

Mr VW not much fun on a dark wet windy Friday night on M62 on the very peak I may add just by the little house on the prairie trying to change a wheel with that pathetic thing you call a jack.

It broke during use (1st use) so had to sit and wait for a trolley jack to arrive.

Rant over.

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nick205 - 3/11/08 at 12:47 PM

That's pretty cack that is Jon - I'll be having a look at the jack in my Passat now!

Was the van empty BTW?


Mr Whippy - 3/11/08 at 12:48 PM

rather weedy looking jack you have there

I fail understood why people claim VW's are well made as I've worked on plenty and never been impressed with the build quality, only slighty better than Ford and that's not saying much...


Jon Ison - 3/11/08 at 12:50 PM

The white plastic bit you see should sit in the two oval holes at one end, the bend was caused by the van falling on it when it "popped" out.

Fortunately I had already placed the spare under the rear trailing arm as I have had fun with VW jacks before, even when they lift they are far from stable, to the point of been unsafe.

Van only carries tools and spares so is never really fully laden.


splitrivet - 3/11/08 at 12:53 PM

Same as the jack supplied by Vauxhall that gave way halfway through a wheel change on me about a month ago.
Theres got to be a big safety issue with them.
Expect it from Vauxhall who's cars are built to the same specification as a Chinese microwave oven.
Cheers,
Bob


r1_pete - 3/11/08 at 12:59 PM

A strong letter to VW is in order, one of the first lessons in car maints - never work on one supported only by a jack!, yet VW expect you to lift it with that piece of crap, then crawl about underneath to get the spare out. A clear safety issue and one which would do their fleet sales no good at all.


Mr Whippy - 3/11/08 at 12:59 PM

these are the only jacks really suitable for roadside wheel changes

you can pick them up for a couple of quid at a scrappy, should be made entirely of metal...




[Edited on 3/11/08 by Mr Whippy]


Jon Ison - 3/11/08 at 01:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
rather weedy looking jack you have there

I fail understood why people claim VW's are well made as I've worked on plenty and never been impressed with the build quality, only slighty better than Ford and that's not saying much...



We are now on our second "T5" transporter, its already been in for two warranty issues, just 12 months old now, the last one went in countless times.....

Majors included.....

diff shattered, off road over a week.

turbo ingested by engine, off road two weeks.

They are pants, unfortunately we don't have a say in what they buy.

The cab is cramped to, not to bad for the driver but passenger space is crap.


RickRick - 3/11/08 at 01:54 PM

ford jacks are the same, no need to worry about scraping knucles when lowering the car, just remove the chock from the front wheel, and give it a little shove, watch the jack bend then collapse!


mcerd1 - 3/11/08 at 02:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
these are the only jacks really suitable for roadside wheel changes

you can pick them up for a couple of quid at a scrappy, should be made entirely of metal...




[Edited on 3/11/08 by Mr Whippy]


arn't those the same as the ones in the sierra/ granada's ?

the one on my 106 was/is heavier than that VW one and I didn't really trust it (but it did work)


l0rd - 3/11/08 at 02:11 PM

or, you can get a hydraulic jack and keep it in your car as i do cause i run out od space at home.


dinosaurjuice - 3/11/08 at 02:22 PM

you simply cant beat a trolley jack,
but a bottle jack is always a good compromise to keep in boot.


Mr Whippy - 3/11/08 at 02:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
these are the only jacks really suitable for roadside wheel changes

you can pick them up for a couple of quid at a scrappy, should be made entirely of metal...




[Edited on 3/11/08 by Mr Whippy]


arn't those the same as the ones in the sierra/ granada's ?

the one on my 106 was/is heavier than that VW one and I didn't really trust it (but it did work)


quote commonly supplied with jap cars also


MikeRJ - 3/11/08 at 02:31 PM

A proper, all metal scissor jack is the only way to go if you want something that doesn't weigh a ton and fits in the boot. They are very useful at home if you have a car too low for the trolley jack to go under as well.

The plastic threaded section in that VW jack defies belief really, the designer should be forced to lie underneath a van supported only by one of his creations.

[Edited on 3/11/08 by MikeRJ]


mangogrooveworkshop - 3/11/08 at 03:31 PM

Its for this very reason we are not allowed to change the vans wheels our self.
We have to call the AA and wait...or drive to the closest quickfit


Mr Whippy - 3/11/08 at 03:58 PM

not alone...

linky


mistergrumpy - 3/11/08 at 07:34 PM

Alfa Romeo supply the same jack and it collapsed when I used it too.