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Author: Subject: 16 & 32A Blue plugs
blakep82

posted on 7/11/08 at 07:46 PM Reply With Quote
16 & 32A Blue plugs

hmmm, i'm needing to use my welder on full pwer this weekend, and at full power it blows 13A fuses too quick, so thinking about doing it properly with a blue 16A plug and socket.

I've also got my compressor which is on a 32A circuit, and fancy putting a proper blue plug on that too.

might be a silly question (i think i know the answer) does a 16A plug fit in the 32A socket? (as a temporory measure until i can wire in a 16A supply from the spare cicuit breaker in my consumer unit?)

are the plugs the same, just with a different fuse inside them? are the plugs fused?





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Guinness

posted on 7/11/08 at 07:56 PM Reply With Quote
16amp plugs are smaller than the 32amp versions. And they don't have integral fuses.

I'd suggest getting a sparky in!

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blakep82

posted on 7/11/08 at 08:07 PM Reply With Quote
I thought the answer would be different sizes. my dad used to be a sparky (many years ago right enough) and he's not home just now to ask. and we did rewire the garage a couple of years back, including a new consumer unit with circuit breakers, and new supply to the garage, new sockets, etc etc.

all the wiring's already there, its just really a case of changing a plug, and a socket

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JoelP

posted on 7/11/08 at 09:34 PM Reply With Quote
You could put a single socket in as a radial, wired in 2.5mm t&e, on a 20A mcb, assuming the run is short and its not near insulation/heat sources/other cables etc. Then open the plug on the welder, swap the live pin (which has a prong for the fuse) for another neutral pin from another plug (which will have a screw terminal) and hence you have a plug with no fuse.

There are several reasons why this isnt a proper solution. You should check the manual for your welder and see what supply it recommends.

You also really want a spark in to test your socket is good.

However with my safety hat on, id say do nothing yourself.

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blakep82

posted on 7/11/08 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
noooo i won't be doing that to a 13A plug. bit of a bodge that one. i've already got an unused 16A circuit breaker in he consumber box, the welder says to run it on a 16A supply too. i've got a 13A plug on it, because, until now, i've never needed to run it full power.





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stevebubs

posted on 8/11/08 at 12:56 AM Reply With Quote
Now you say that you have a 32A circuit...is this a proper one with it's own breaker and terminated in a yellow socket?

If so, then something from here should help

http://www.idesystems.co.uk/products.php?section=1

Alternatively, pop down to your local disco lighting place - I'm sure they'll be able to help with a suitable PDU.

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blakep82

posted on 8/11/08 at 01:09 AM Reply With Quote
aren't yellow sockets for 110v?
yep, 32A breaker on consumer box, which the compressor is wired into, but is wired into a junction box. I'd prefer it on a 32A plug and socket. Just to make it easy to unplug if i need to move it or take it apart or something, ie isolating it from the supply.

there is a spare 16A breaker in the cunsumer box, which i want to use for my welder





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02GF74

posted on 8/11/08 at 09:44 AM Reply With Quote
locost way is to fit a paper clip

(make sure you house insurance policy is up to date before you begin)






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