Dangle_kt
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 posted on 6/1/09 at 10:53 AM |
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ice skid pan
had great fun yesterday in a deserted car park, doing 3mph handbrake turns to get 360 revolution.
if you find an empty car park i recommend a good 10 minute mess about sans traction control.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 10:59 AM |
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always done this every winter. The police don't seem to mind either as they have just driven by without interfering. Tend to be going rather
faster than 3mph though fastest way to stop on ice is to pull on the handbrake and slide sideways, stops in a third of the distance than straight
ahead. Such ‘playing’ about has saved my bacon many times.
[Edited on 6/1/09 by Mr Whippy]
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JeffHs
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 11:01 AM |
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Hard to find deserted car parks these days, but I would recommend everyone should do this and explore their limits in safety. You never know - it
might just give you a skill set that comes in very handy when you need it in earnest!
Many years ago, several of us did this with a mix of rwd and fwd cars - very entertaining and instructive.
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twybrow
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 11:10 AM |
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I couldn't agree more. The mrs freaks out at the sight of ice, because she has never really driven on it. Me on the otherside, spent many an
evening sliding gracefully around the work car park on the ice. Very useful for when you find yourself in a sticky situation (middle of Dartmoor, on a
very steep hill, sliding towards a brand new Audi TT = brown trousers time!).
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nick205
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 11:29 AM |
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Always good fun this time of year although it is getting harder to find suitable places to "practice".
IMHO this activity should form part of driver training and testing. As should night driving and using public carparks.
While we're on the subject, IMHO you should also have to take additional training and testing before towing anything, even a poxy little Erde
trailer from Halfords.
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Agriv8
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 11:38 AM |
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Make a point on my tin tops to do this when i get chance as my 130 bhp passat with traction control ( both on and off ) needs to be driven very
diferently to my old 110 one that did not have any. ( It is also good fun ).
the best 2 wheel drive on snow I had was Citreon BX Derv with snow tyres on the front.
regards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 11:40 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Always good fun this time of year although it is getting harder to find suitable places to "practice".
IMHO this activity should form part of driver training and testing. As should night driving and using public carparks.
While we're on the subject, IMHO you should also have to take additional training and testing before towing anything, even a poxy little Erde
trailer from Halfords.
I was quite shocked when I sat my bus test that I did not have to do any skid training whatsoever, I had assumed it was mandatory. When you consider a
bendy carries over 90 unrestrained people, weighs about 17 tons and expected to be used in all weathers, why the hell the drivers aren’t given
training for when the damn thing starts sliding down the road is mind boggling. But like most road training in this country it is not taken with the
appropriate seriousness.
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Alfa145
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 11:51 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
if you find an empty car park i recommend a good 10 minute mess about sans traction control.
Unless you have a Newish Peugeot then you cant turn the dam traction control off 
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YQUSTA
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 12:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
While we're on the subject, IMHO you should also have to take additional training and testing before towing anything, even a poxy little Erde
trailer from Halfords.
I believe this is now required for all new drivers.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 12:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by YQUSTA
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
While we're on the subject, IMHO you should also have to take additional training and testing before towing anything, even a poxy little Erde
trailer from Halfords.
I believe this is now required for all new drivers.
yip
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bbwales
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 01:31 PM |
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Hi,
Used to do it in Germany on the parade square in a 27 ton recovery truck, it taught me a lot and when my daughters started to drive I did take them to
a car park on a snowy day to let them get the feel of a car skidding and how to correct it. The police came and asked me what I was doing and when I
explained they said that is a good idea and told us to enjoy ourselves and then drove off doing a couple of skids as they went.
Regards
Bob
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nick205
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 01:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by YQUSTA
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
While we're on the subject, IMHO you should also have to take additional training and testing before towing anything, even a poxy little Erde
trailer from Halfords.
I believe this is now required for all new drivers.
Excellent News!
I wasn't aware of that.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 02:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bbwales
Hi,
Used to do it in Germany on the parade square in a 27 ton recovery truck, it taught me a lot and when my daughters started to drive I did take them to
a car park on a snowy day to let them get the feel of a car skidding and how to correct it. The police came and asked me what I was doing and when I
explained they said that is a good idea and told us to enjoy ourselves and then drove off doing a couple of skids as they went.
Regards
Bob
yeah I thought I'd get in trouble but nope they seem quite happy you are making the effort
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JoelP
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| posted on 6/1/09 at 05:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by YQUSTA
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
While we're on the subject, IMHO you should also have to take additional training and testing before towing anything, even a poxy little Erde
trailer from Halfords.
I believe this is now required for all new drivers.
Excellent News!
I wasn't aware of that.
Are you sure you arent thinking of trailers over 750kgs? That changed around 1998. Are there further restriction in place regarding towing?
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trogdor
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| posted on 7/1/09 at 09:06 AM |
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yes as far as I am aware I can tow a trailer up to 750kgs.
I only passed my test in oct 07 so it may of changed since then. Will have to check!
Plus think i may have a practise at skidding! difficult to find the space tho!
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