smart51
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 12:28 PM |
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American cars go all "eco"
Lincoln Unveil plans for an "Eco" car. A turboed 1.6 litre
Focus sized car with 180 BHP. Tests show it can top 50 MPG (imperial) on gentle out of town runs.
A bog standard 1.6 petrol focus does 51MPG out of town. A 1.6 diesel focus does 70 MPG out of town, 78 MPG for the econetic version.
Do you reckon they could do something that actually was good if they tried?
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 12:33 PM |
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Originally posted by smart51
Do you reckon they could do something that actually was good if they tried?
their good at starting wars
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It is coupled with the all-new dry, dual-clutch PowerShift six-speed transmission and allows the C concept to achieve 43 mpg on the highway.
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my old 1.8 petrol Bluebird does that!
[Edited on 20/1/09 by Mr Whippy]
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nick205
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 12:33 PM |
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Agreed, they have a long, long road ahead of them where eco and auto are concerened.
BUT this has to be seen as a quantum leap for them in real terms.
The underlying issue here though could be the torque required to haul their ample frames. maybe that's why V8 has been king for so long 
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nick205
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 12:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
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Originally posted by smart51
Do you reckon they could do something that actually was good if they tried?
their good at starting wars
and dragging their "special friends" into it and then leaving a feckin' mess behind them 
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r1_pete
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 12:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
Lincoln
Do you reckon they could do something that actually was good if they tried?
Only after they've exhausted all other possibilities.....
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 12:43 PM |
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Its a very ugly car really, the insides like a star trek film set, all white and chrome barf 
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 12:50 PM |
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I used to whinge like hell when my colleagues complained about the price of 'gas'.
then they would take p1ss out of us driving small cars.
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RK
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 01:02 PM |
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My brother in law works in Northern Alberta as a diesel mechanic. He is the envy of all the pickup truck owners with his little Toyota Echo. He can
actually drive to Edmonton without taking out a mortgage. A 5 hour drive.
Americans can't build cars. They build pickup trucks. That is their area of expertise and they should stick to it.
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 01:14 PM |
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Originally posted by RK
My brother in law works in Northern Alberta as a diesel mechanic. He is the envy of all the pickup truck owners with his little Toyota Echo. He can
actually drive to Edmonton without taking out a mortgage. A 5 hour drive.
Americans can't build cars. They build pickup trucks. That is their area of expertise and they should stick to it.
Thats a YARIS
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 01:19 PM |
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A while ago I was reading an american review of the Daewoo Matiz...
...in the end they decided that it would be really useful in the big cities, but would be regarded as a speed bump on freeways!
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swanny
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 01:19 PM |
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“People will be happy to buy a smaller car that is better for the environment and more maneuverable in the city as long as the vehicle has all the
attributes they want.”
didnt vauxhall try this with the signum?
sank. like. a. stone.
doesnt work, people and esp americans like a big ass saloon shape.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 02:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
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It is coupled with the all-new dry, dual-clutch PowerShift six-speed transmission and allows the C concept to achieve 43 mpg on the
highway.
my old 1.8 petrol Bluebird does that!
are you rembering to convert from 'English' units to Imperial ?
43mpg for them
1.2 * 43 = 51.6mpg for us (they have big cars and small gallons  )
but even then my old 106 (15 years old at the time) used to get better than that on long runs if I was a bit careful - and it had 4 gears and a single
choke carb !
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 02:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
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Originally posted by Mr Whippy
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It is coupled with the all-new dry, dual-clutch PowerShift six-speed transmission and allows the C concept to achieve 43 mpg on the
highway.
my old 1.8 petrol Bluebird does that!
are you rembering to convert from 'English' units to Imperial ?
43mpg for them
1.2 * 43 = 51.6mpg for us (they have big cars and small gallons )
but even then my old 106 (15 years old at the time) used to get better than that on long runs if I was a bit careful - and it had 4 gears and a single
choke carb !
true but thats still less than 10mpg difference and the Bluebirds heavy / boxy and has a carb!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 20/1/09 at 03:35 PM |
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Originally posted by Mr Whippytrue but thats still less than 10mpg difference and the Bluebirds heavy / boxy and has a carb!
fair enough, I guess the 106 doesn't weigh much so it shouldn't be that surprising
maybe you can tell I've still got a bit of a soft spot for the 106 - I was quite attached to it..... (just ask mango )
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Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
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Originally posted by RK
My brother in law works in Northern Alberta as a diesel mechanic. He is the envy of all the pickup truck owners with his little Toyota Echo. He can
actually drive to Edmonton without taking out a mortgage. A 5 hour drive.
Americans can't build cars. They build pickup trucks. That is their area of expertise and they should stick to it.
Thats a YARIS
that reminds me, one of my mates told me he was picking up a hire car in canada and while he was waiting a canadian guy came in to pick up his
courtesy car while his pickup was getting fixed.
he filled in all the paperwork, took the keys and went to find the car. 1min later he comes back in (having found out it was a yaris) and says:
"what do you expect me to do with that ? put it in the back of my truck!"
[Edited on 20/1/09 by mcerd1]
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