nick205
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 09:11 AM |
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TV license for watching on the web?
Say you didn't have a TV in your house, but chose to watch TV on the internet - thinking specifically about BBC iPlayer - what's the
situation regards having to have a TV license...?
(my sceptical side says the Governement/BBC will say you should have one)
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carpmart
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 09:15 AM |
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It specifically says that you should not use the iplayer if you don't have a current TV license!
Your skepticism is well founded! 
Edit - Good point from Matt below - its on the part of iplayer for live TV like the news where it says you should have a license!
[Edited on 3/2/09 by carpmart]
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 09:15 AM |
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It's fine to watch online without a licence as long as your not watching 'live', see:
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/index.jsp
quote:
You must be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV. It makes no difference what
equipment you use - whether it’s a laptop, PC, mobile phone, digital box, DVD recorder or a TV set - you still need a licence. You do not need a TV
Licence to view video clips on the internet, as long as what you are viewing is not being shown on TV at the same time as you are viewing it.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 09:16 AM |
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I don't have a license and have 3 tv's don't watch crappy BBC programs anyway
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MK chippy
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 09:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I don't have a license and have 3 tv's don't watch crappy BBC programs anyway
How'd you get away with that then?
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 09:28 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MK chippy
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I don't have a license and have 3 tv's don't watch crappy BBC programs anyway
How'd you get away with that then?
generally done by lying to them
haven't had one since I moved into my new house almost 2 years ago
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nick205
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 09:54 AM |
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Figured as much - hadn't looked at iPlayer in any detail though.
Arbitrary Q really as we already have 3 TVs in the house, just interested in what might be possible
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Peteff
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 10:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by MK chippy
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I don't have a license and have 3 tv's don't watch crappy BBC programs anyway
How'd you get away with that then?
generally done by lying to them
haven't had one since I moved into my new house almost 2 years ago
My niece thought that, then they fined her £1000. If you get away with it for 8 years you should just about break even
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 10:09 AM |
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sticking a dish on the side of the house is a bad idea if you want to claim you don't have a tv but I'm very happy with freeview. Got two
of those digital tv recorders and their just full of stuff to watch now, don't have any need for sky
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jabbahutt
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 10:15 AM |
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here is one for you lot to mull over considering the current financial climate.
If i get made redundant (which looks pretty likely) and I can't afford to run my kit car I can SORN it. The authorities trust me even though i
have the car not to drive it as it won't be taxed.
So why can't I SORN my TV if I can't afford the licence. I'm not forced to sell me car if tempoirarily I'm not driving it but
to have the TV in the house and not use it is completely illegal.
What do you guys think of that for an argument.
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nick205
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 10:31 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jabbahutt
here is one for you lot to mull over considering the current financial climate.
If i get made redundant (which looks pretty likely) and I can't afford to run my kit car I can SORN it. The authorities trust me even though i
have the car not to drive it as it won't be taxed.
So why can't I SORN my TV if I can't afford the licence. I'm not forced to sell me car if tempoirarily I'm not driving it but
to have the TV in the house and not use it is completely illegal.
What do you guys think of that for an argument.
Hope that's not the case re: redundancy Nigel 
Don't they have to catch you watching the TV inorder to prosecute/fine. You could write and cancel your license stating that you still have the
TV but won't be using it. Don't know the finer legal points, but often informing people/organisations of your intention in writing gives
you some ground to stand on.
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owelly
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 10:41 AM |
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The auction house where my mate worked had to have a TV license even though they could get no signal due to its location! They needed it because they
had TV receivers on the premises!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 10:42 AM |
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I trawled through the web on this subject for days and they do actually have to have seen the tv on in your house to go any further. But the fact is
there is no such thing as a tv detector van, it was a myth, they simply send out to all addresses the TV application form under the assumption
everyone has one. But like all offices if you don’t respond or give false details they won’t chase it up cos people are lazy and just what to go home
after a long day. I had a form come through a few months ago about court duty, binned it knowing fine well that would be the last I heard of it and it
was, typical though as it came though just as I’d booked my holday.
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Nick Skidmore
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 11:29 AM |
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The more you bow to an administration the more it makes you serve it.
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NOTE:This user is registered as a LocostBuilders trader and may offer commercial services to other users
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:{THC}:YosamiteSam
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 11:53 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by MK chippy
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I don't have a license and have 3 tv's don't watch crappy BBC programs anyway
How'd you get away with that then?
generally done by lying to them
haven't had one since I moved into my new house almost 2 years ago
you really wanna be careful - you dont know who is reading this forum - may well be someone who works in enforcement.. perhaps..
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 12:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by :{THC}:YosamiteSam
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by MK chippy
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I don't have a license and have 3 tv's don't watch crappy BBC programs anyway
How'd you get away with that then?
generally done by lying to them
haven't had one since I moved into my new house almost 2 years ago
you really wanna be careful - you dont know who is reading this forum - may well be someone who works in enforcement.. perhaps..
Na it ok, car building would give them a heart attack from the excitement their more likely on the 'Shuffling paperwork skills forum'
getting all worked up about the latest stapler  OMG it can do 50 pages in one go!!!
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James
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 12:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by :{THC}:YosamiteSam
you really wanna be careful - you dont know who is reading this forum - may well be someone who works in enforcement.. perhaps..
And they'll find him how exactly???
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
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iank
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 12:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by :{THC}:YosamiteSam
you really wanna be careful - you dont know who is reading this forum - may well be someone who works in enforcement.. perhaps..
And they'll find him how exactly???
With access to the dvla computer I could get a name and address trivially.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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scootz
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 01:07 PM |
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The buggers still want me to confirm that I have a license just because I recently bought a telly.
We do have a license... it's in the wife's name and registered at our address... the same address the bought telly was sent to... the same
address that their letter was sent to!
NO... I WON'T PLAY THEIR GAMES!
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 01:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by James
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Originally posted by :{THC}:YosamiteSam
you really wanna be careful - you dont know who is reading this forum - may well be someone who works in enforcement.. perhaps..
And they'll find him how exactly???
With access to the dvla computer I could get a name and address trivially.
won't work the cars are down as another address, did I mention I don't pay council tax either?  I love scams
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Hellfire
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 01:55 PM |
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Whippy, does your electricity only come on when the street lamps outside light up as well?
Phil
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Peteff
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 03:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I trawled through the web on this subject for days and they do actually have to have seen the tv on in your house to go any further.
Sadly not true, you only have to be in possession of equipment capable of receiving a signal to be liable for a license, they don't have to
prove you were using it at any time. An acquaintance of ours (I'll not say friend as he is a bloodsucking leech with over £1m to his name who
deserved catching ) claimed to only possess a TV to watch DVD and VHS films yet he was prosecuted for not having a license as he had an aerial
fitted to his chimney and lead plugged in to his set. The officials who caught him were just going door to door and asking to see licenses at
properties on their list who did not have one.
won't work the cars are down as another address, did I mention I don't pay council tax either? I love scams
The hole just gets deeper, is your insurance at your present address or is that in someone else's name as well.
[Edited on 3/2/09 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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r1_pete
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 04:20 PM |
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I work for the outsourcer who runs the TV Licensing database, in fact in August last year I upgraded (replaced) the mainframe which runs
it
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