DarrenW
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 03:13 PM |
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Diesel injection specialists in Co. Durham
As title, can anyone recommend any diesel injection specialists in Co. Durham?
Ive got number for a place in Scarborough. Just wondering if there are any places recommended more locally. Im in Bishop Auckland (South of
Durham).
Ive phoned Breedon and Gell in Darlignton but the guy wasnt keen to talk, even to tell me how busy he was and how quick he could look at the car. I
was only on phone a minute or so and he spent half of that telling me that he could do the jobs quicker if he didnt have to talk to people on the
phone as much! I was almost apologising for phoning up with a job for him!
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maartenromijn
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 06:56 PM |
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Hi Darren, I saw your topic the other day about your diesel BMW. By coincidence I talked to a colleage of mine about the BMW diesel engines.
Maybe you already knew, but this colleage told me that if you replace any item on your engine, like an injector or an air-mass gauge, the computer of
your car needs to be reset at the dealer. Only then it will 'find' the new part and use it.
I don't know if this is of any help, but I wanted to share this with you because it just might be.
Good luck
BLOG: http://thunderroad-super7.blogspot.com/
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trextr7monkey
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| posted on 3/2/09 at 07:25 PM |
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HI Darren , there's no prizes but youare the 3rd I've heard of in 3 weeks with injector problems , this link might help you as I know
nothing about diesel stuff,
http://jagoownersclub1.proboards92.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1389
atb
Mike
get back if there's anything I can help with- I have a telephone number for one of the blokes
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14016102@N00/ (cut and paste this dodgey link)
Our most recent pics are here:
http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p211/trextr7monkey/
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/2/09 at 09:02 AM |
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Maarten - thanks for that. I had heard that some parts need coding in. i dont think it is just the main dealers that can do it though. My local indy
did tell me that there is a sequence to go through when fitting a new injector but they dont need 'coding' as such with computers etc.
Mike - unfortunately i cant access the link without logging in to the site. Research ive done on bMW forums suggested relays, cam sensors, pre supply
pump or injector leaks as main culprits. There wasnt a cam sensor fault recorded so ill rule that out for now. At home im going to swap out the relay
(horn has exact same one and should be less used), and perform a basic leak off test.
Im just preparing myself for the worst ref injectors to see who is recommended in the area.
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owelly
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| posted on 4/2/09 at 10:16 AM |
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And I'll throw another bundle of spiders into the salad...........
The indy garage who first looked at my Rangey ran the diag using the OBD. It was the generic analyser from Snap-on that is used by most places. They
were using the info that the machine gave them. That's what told them to change the heater plugs or the injectors!
There are a lot of mechanics who can swap parts until the fault is fixed rather than actually find the fault and fix it. A sort of chequebook
diagnostics but they're using your chequebook!
And back to my original point....
The guy I work with had an X5 which, he told me, had the same fault. The main dealer changed some engine position sensors (I thought the engine would
be under the bonnet?), the pre-cranking fuel pump, £120 worth of relays (that could be one or more depending on how much they cost!) a set of heater
plugs and a full set of injectors. The bill came to well over £2k but they 'only' charged him £2k as a goodwill gesture! The very last job
they did over the two weeks they had the X5 was the injectors. What's the chances that all the car needed was one injector? It's very easy
to trust a garage to spend your money but I like to have my head under the bonnet too!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/2/09 at 11:03 AM |
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Ive heard those exact same £2K plus repair stories from a few people too. Even if i had that sort of cash i wouldnt spend it before some research of
my own. Ive already thought that if all of the injectors need changing iam either incredibly unlucky or it is something that controls the injectors
that could be the fault.
Im a little narked that the code reading session didnt reveal anything new and still points to the pump or an injector. It will cost me virtually
nothing to change the relay and test injectors.
Seems like there are no recommended indy's in my area other than the guy who read the codes, but he sounds too familiar with the cheque book
method for my liking.
I once used an Indy based in Newsham near Richmond (Century House Garage) but i think the company is now ran by his son - John Cockburn - from a
garage in Thirsk that seems to do a lot of competition work. Thirsk isnt somewhere i happen to pass that often though to call in.
Wouldnt it be nice if some indy garage could just say oh yeah - its either the pump or injector. Do the tests in an hour for a few quid then give a
quote for repair. Too much to ask?
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/2/09 at 02:56 PM |
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curiosity got the better of me at lunch time. Engine cover off - Inj 1 is exposed. Pulled clip and pipe out. Clamped return pipe. Cranked car over for
3 or 4 secs. Slight amount of disel in end of injector but quite a bit came out of the pipe. Looks liek one of the others is leaking. Ive got some
clear pipe ready for when i pull the others off so i can see how much leakage i get from each.
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owelly
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| posted on 4/2/09 at 03:07 PM |
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Don't crank the engine over. Just let the leccy fuel pump do its thing.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/2/09 at 03:18 PM |
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Im just curious - why do you say dont crank it over.
Im just asking cos ive seen some test kit (basically just a set of clear plastic bottles, clear pipes and ends that fit in the injectors). That kit
suggests you should crank over for a few seconds and observe the qty's in each bottle. I think they are supposed to leak back a bit when
operating.
Maybe your method is testing the sealing properties when they are stood idle (in other words if they are likely to release the pressure in the fuel
rail).
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/2/09 at 06:02 PM |
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Just used m new high tech leak off test kit (4x 6" lengths of clear washer hose). Pump only - no apparent leakage / nothing that concerned
me.
Cranking over - hoses on injectors 3 and 4 filled within 1 - 2 seconds. Injectors 1 and 2 still dry.
Looks like i need to get 3 and 4 sorted. Unless i can find anyone closer ill have to go to Scarborough.
Strangely, inj's 3 and 4 are different part number to 1 and 2. I thought it was important for all 4 to be the same.
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owelly
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| posted on 4/2/09 at 10:17 PM |
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Ring those guys I gave you the details of and ask their advice. They seemed happy to talk to me but I didn't have a foreign accent.....
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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DarrenW
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| posted on 4/2/09 at 10:24 PM |
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I think i will do that. Driving to S isnt a great hardship. Especially if it gets car fixed. And £90 per is a good incentive (im guessing your
injectors will be similar to mine).
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trextr7monkey
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| posted on 6/2/09 at 08:53 PM |
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Hi Darren I have (belatedly) copied stuff and sent it over,
atb
Mike
http://www.flickr.com/photos/14016102@N00/ (cut and paste this dodgey link)
Our most recent pics are here:
http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p211/trextr7monkey/
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