02GF74
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| posted on 10/2/09 at 08:45 AM |
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another building question....
anyone have an idea or know if I can find out on the web of price to build garage?
I don't have sizes but let's go with something like this:
* 4 bays, each with own door, being 3 m x 10 m.
* The roof pitched (pointy type) as opposed to flat roof.
* constructed on concrete base
* wall breeze block, rendered inside, possibly same outside but see below
* option of putting bricks to match house, house is 1800 (year not cc) so not sure if available and at what cost
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 10/2/09 at 08:59 AM |
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I'm just finishing one off right now, oh my poor frozen feet!! 
its 6m x 6.5m, single 3m wide door, built with 6in concrete blocks and a concrete tile peaked 35 deg roof
I did all the block work and fitted the roof, windows, door etc etc so no labour charges
5 palets of blocks - £400
11 roof trusses - £500
4 - windows (free)
1 side door & frame - £30
Main door - £1500 (oops that was nuts but I like it  )
Concrete floor and foundations - £500
Wood for roof - £300
Tiles - £500
Electrics - £200
Total - £4030
As you can see it all mounts up but if you do it yourself it makes a huge saving, next door they have got a quote for a similar sized garage of £25k
for some builder to come in and do it 
[Edited on 10/2/09 by Mr Whippy]
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smart51
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| posted on 10/2/09 at 09:00 AM |
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Old bricks are usually smaller than modern ones. The'll be expensive. You'd be better going to a brick yard and looking at their stock
to find a modern brick that is a reasonable colour match.
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02GF74
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| posted on 10/2/09 at 09:04 AM |
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Mr W self build is an option but I've not constructed before so would not know where to start. Think like do you need to tie base layer
of blocks down to the contrete to stop them moving? Or how to enure wall is vertical in both directions? etc: Were you taught by someone, read
books/look at website or just winged it?
Mr S yep - I noticed they are not as tall. Presumably there may be modern bricks of same colour or else it is reclamation yard, latter
I'd expect to be £££.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 10/2/09 at 09:25 AM |
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Believe it or not the walls infact sit on a sheet of plastic, commonly known as damp course. They do not require any fixing to the concrete base as
each corner make it stable, plus the weight and rigidity of the roof prevents any movement, once its all built. You will require an approved plan for
the garage, you can’t just simply draw one up and start building as the council will promptly tell you to take it down. All the detail notes will be
on that, it’s all very simple really.
You use a sprit level to check the walls as you build, though after a while you can simply use you eye’s and then check to confirm once you’ve done
about 4 rows. I was taught by my dad when I was a kid (quite literally bought up on building sites), I mind spending one entire summer holiday nailing
down floor boards drove JCB’s as soon as I could see over the dash  once straight into the houses wall (then blame sister  )
It’s a piece of cake really, brick laying should take about a day to become happy with the trowel, 24 shovels of sand to 1 bag of cement btw, add the
water first to the mixer before the sand too
[Edited on 10/2/09 by Mr Whippy]
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NS Dev
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| posted on 10/2/09 at 01:12 PM |
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Will second basically everything Mr Whippy has said.
I built my garage which is basically 4 car (but not 4 in a row) in 6 inch block with pitched roof but clad with industrial cladding not tiled. It cost
me about £3800.
Quote for a builder to do it was circa £10,000.
points of note are:
1) If you use a "concrete base" not footings, then you'll probably have to show evidence of structural calculations IF you go
through building regs, which for agarage of that size you will need to to do it legally (anything over 30 sqm needs to)
2) if you use wall footings and a concrete floor that's seperate then the footings need to be 1m minimum depth in clay or 600mm in sandy soils
minimum.
3) Don't use bricks, area for area they are 4 times the price of blocks
4) Use proprietary roof trusses, they come (or should do! ) with the calcs needed for building regs
5) Blocks are hard to lay compared to bricks but are faster due to their size.
6) You "should" be able to avoid planning permisison, but check with your council first, I didn't need it for a 30ft by 17ft garage
but not all areas are the same
7) as I said, legally you need building regs for anyhting over 30 sqm, and the cost goes up with area, basic is 30 to 40 sqm, mine came in at the next
step up for 40 to 70 sqm i think, was about £125 7 years ago.
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