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zilspeed

posted on 23/2/09 at 11:27 PM Reply With Quote
An idea not to copy.

My first ever lecture at university was in Structural Mechanics.

September 1990 it was.

I'll always remember the lecturer's words.

"Stresses travel in straight lines".

Clearly, this bloke doesn't like that whole principle.

Form follows function?

Nahhh.








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designer

posted on 24/2/09 at 12:14 AM Reply With Quote
It looks professionaly made with the quality so they could be well designed!

Too gothic for my taste.

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Hellfire

posted on 24/2/09 at 12:22 AM Reply With Quote
Professionally made and designed doesn't mean it will work though unfortunately.

Hit a decent UK pothole with that and he'll get more toe-out than he bargained for...

Steve






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Volvorsport

posted on 24/2/09 at 12:35 AM Reply With Quote
im more interested in why hes still using an old AFM?

but you have to ask why make it so difficult on yourself ?





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Canada EH!

posted on 24/2/09 at 01:41 AM Reply With Quote
New approach to self-centering.
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designer

posted on 24/2/09 at 07:24 AM Reply With Quote
One of the UK manufacturers uses a curved wishbone too.
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MakeEverything

posted on 24/2/09 at 08:38 AM Reply With Quote
I dont see a major issue here. Its braces well enough and the material is substantial enough to compensate for the lateral stresses. Probably not how i would make it, but notice the side rails are bent rather than welded. This in iteself is an admision of "yes i know theres stress on that bend, which is why its bent and not welded".

Its easy to criticise but until we know the full design specification and the motives behind it, anything goes.





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Richard.

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MakeEverything

posted on 24/2/09 at 08:41 AM Reply With Quote
Also, look at the centreline of the front triangulation. It turns that bend into the bottom corner of a triangle.
If it were cut mitred and welded id definately be concerned.





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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/2/09 at 08:45 AM Reply With Quote
he's put grease nipples on the bush tubes, good idea






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MikeRJ

posted on 24/2/09 at 08:49 AM Reply With Quote
Top wishbones aren't particularly stressed though, it'll probably be fine. Not sure I could be bothered with it however, it's probably heavier than standard and doesn't actually do anything better.
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britishtrident

posted on 24/2/09 at 09:01 AM Reply With Quote
It must be at close to 3 times the weight of the book standard bone.for less than half the stiffness.
Good workman ship though
Shame because the bottom bones are pretty cool.

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hellbent345

posted on 24/2/09 at 12:05 PM Reply With Quote
also have you seen the roll bar at the back, supported by what looks like 3mm plate all the way along? thats gonna bend....
al

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dinosaurjuice

posted on 24/2/09 at 01:03 PM Reply With Quote
anyone know why the front shocks go through the lower wishbone? never seen that before.






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britishtrident

posted on 24/2/09 at 03:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dinosaurjuice
anyone know why the front shocks go through the lower wishbone? never seen that before.


To get the line of action of the coil spring damper unit as close the ball joint centre as possible and so reduce the bending loads on the wishbone. It also allows a longer damper stroke hence a decent ammount of suspension movement. It was fairly normal practice back in the days before single seater went over to inboard suspension -- look at real Lotus Sevens, Lotus 18, 1960s Brabhams and the like.

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zilspeed

posted on 24/2/09 at 04:34 PM Reply With Quote
The workmanship is excellent and I could never hope to emulate it.

However.

I still don't like the design of the top wishbones.

Before we go any further - remember, my car is an overweight and old fashioned thing with unmodified 1960s saloon car suspension, so I'm not being all high and mighty about this.

Any new Locost / MK / MNR / Sylva / whatever being built these days has the chance of a clean sheet of paper as regards stuff like suspension.
It may be an overused cliche, but these are racing cars for the road, so important stuff like suspension should be built to racing car principals.
I've yet to see a racing car built with swoopy wishbones that were built that way because they looked cooler. They're built straight because straight works best.

I think the guy has excellent fabrication skills, but don't agree with the Orange County Choppers style wishbones.

Here's some proper bones.








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