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Author: Subject: My Megasquirt woes are back
omega0684

posted on 20/3/09 at 02:20 PM Reply With Quote
My Megasquirt woes are back

i've just gone to start me car to head over to see Tim so that we can check over his car before his SVA and mine won't start!

in fact there is not pump priming at all, check the fuses to find that the 3 amp fuse on the 12v supply to the fuel pump had blown and the 15 amp fuse to the injectors as well, after replacing them the car still won't start and the 3 amp fuse has blown again, why could this be, the car was working fine yesterday.

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iiyama

posted on 20/3/09 at 02:25 PM Reply With Quote
3A on the fuel pump?? Seems low to me bud, most injection pumps are pulling 8-11A





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omega0684

posted on 20/3/09 at 02:32 PM Reply With Quote
no i have 10 amp fuse of fuel pump, 3 amp going to MS

wiring diagram here

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t16turbotone

posted on 20/3/09 at 02:36 PM Reply With Quote
you need to start disconnecting things one at a time mate, untill you find the culprit
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omega0684

posted on 20/3/09 at 02:38 PM Reply With Quote
it looks like there is no signal from the MS to the fuel pump relay, i have tested both relays and that seems to be the only thing i can find, have been disconnecting wires and testing voltages for an hour now and im now stuck that why ive turned to the furm for help
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theconrodkid

posted on 20/3/09 at 02:41 PM Reply With Quote
on mine the pump wouldnt turn off,turned out to be the tranny that switches the pump relay,could be yours tranny has failed the other way?





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02GF74

posted on 20/3/09 at 02:57 PM Reply With Quote
you syaing the fuse to megasquirt blew?

and after you replaced it with same rated fuse, it is ok?

re: signal to relays.

I am not familiar with the MS circuit but most liklely there is a micro with I/O lines; there will be resistor from these to base of transisitor that is connected one end of the relay coil, other end of coil goig to 12 V.

At whcih point o nthe circuit are you seeing no signal?

If you are able to turn on/off the lines to the relays, then you should be able to measure the voltage at the resitor - this should change between 0 and 5 V, otherwise the micro is not healthy.

If the voltage does chahnge but coil is not being switched, then likely the transistor is dead. You have snubber diode fitted? (I seem to recall these being part of the board ).






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twybrow

posted on 20/3/09 at 02:58 PM Reply With Quote
Just spoken to Alex - it turned out to be a snapped earthing point. He now has the fuel pump priming, although his car is in bits....!
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Krismc

posted on 20/3/09 at 03:20 PM Reply With Quote
i put a 15Amp everywhere, i find they last longer!





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omega0684

posted on 20/3/09 at 03:25 PM Reply With Quote
as tim said , i found that a bad earth on the fuel pump had snaped, (God knows how) but my car now looks like a half built one! no dash, no tunnel, no seats, wiring hanging out everywhere! huff got to put it all back together now!
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02GF74

posted on 20/3/09 at 03:26 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Krismc
i put a 15Amp everywhere, i find they last longer!


that is bad advice. let me tell you why.

when I was much much younger, a built a PWM power controller for 00 guage train. It worked great.

One day I took the wheels off the locomotive and refitted them to find the 1 A fuse blew. So I replaced it with another 1 A - same. To save fuses, I use strands of wire, still the same.

So I put in quite a few strands = quite a few amps. The fuse did not blow this time but smoke stated to come out of the power controlleer!!! The power amp blew.

Turned out that I fitted one set of wheels wrong way round so was shorting out hte track!!

From that day on, I keep to correct rated fuses.






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mcerd1

posted on 20/3/09 at 03:39 PM Reply With Quote
someone told me they once saw a forklift mechanic finding damaged/broken wires by swapping the fuses for 6" nails and waiting to see where the smoke came from

[Edited on 20/3/09 by mcerd1]

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