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woodster

posted on 5/5/09 at 12:35 PM Reply With Quote
vindicator 4 seater

and that takes the biscuit for me

http://www.vindicator.co.uk/pages/gallery/04/index.htm

[Edited on 5/5/09 by woodster]

[Edited on 5/5/09 by woodster]

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Davey D

posted on 5/5/09 at 12:41 PM Reply With Quote
the roll bar on that is absolutely useless.. should the car ever roll over the hoop will just fold over






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MK9R

posted on 5/5/09 at 01:06 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by woodster
and that takes the biscuit for me

http://www.vindicator.co.uk/pages/gallery/04/index.htm

[Edited on 5/5/09 by woodster]

[Edited on 5/5/09 by woodster]


It suits the family in the picture





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blakep82

posted on 5/5/09 at 01:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MK9R
quote:
Originally posted by woodster
and that takes the biscuit for me

http://www.vindicator.co.uk/pages/gallery/04/index.htm



It suits the family in the picture


except they really needed a 5 seater

er, aye, not the prettiest, but if you want a car like this, and have a young family, its nice because you can all go out in it together





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cd.thomson

posted on 5/5/09 at 01:12 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Davey D
the roll bar on that is absolutely useless.. should the car ever roll over the hoop will just fold over


Apparently all single roll hoops on our cars are. Without a full roll cage you have very little protection. Lots of vindicator bashing around today.

TBH thats probably the best affordable and accessible 4 seater I've come across. Not something I'd build but then I don't have a gf let alone kids.





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nick205

posted on 5/5/09 at 01:22 PM Reply With Quote
Speaking as one who is considering selling his (2 seater) Indy which doesn't get a look in due to 3 young kids I can understand the concept. The reality however just doesn't bear thinking about.

I'd be more in favour of owning a classic car with 4/5 seats myself than a stretched 7






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Dangle_kt

posted on 5/5/09 at 02:10 PM Reply With Quote
I think you guys should stop with the bashing - there are people on here who have spents as long as we all have building a 4 seater.

Imagine if you logged onto a post where your choice of kit was being ripped to peices.

Bit harsh guys when there has already been a thread about them today.

Anyway I'll wind my neck in now

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Vindi_andy

posted on 5/5/09 at 02:19 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks dangle you beat me to it, on this thread at least.

See my post on the other thread for my reasons for building one.

On a side note the SVA examiner was very interested/intrigued by the kit because it is a 4 seater and he hadnt seen one before and he has 2 young lads so a few comments were made to that effect by other examiners.

And yes it did take quite a while to do but it did pass SVA first time

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woodster

posted on 5/5/09 at 02:24 PM Reply With Quote
i wasn't bashing them but i was wondering where you would find 3 other nutters that would get in with you when you were going to go track bashing at full tilt .......
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speedyxjs

posted on 5/5/09 at 02:47 PM Reply With Quote
I dont mind them. I think they look abit like a seven limo





How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?

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DavidW

posted on 5/5/09 at 02:48 PM Reply With Quote
I'm personally not sure about the looks (although I think the back is ok) but I can really appreciate the idea.

I started my Indy before I had any children. My wife and I looked forward to trips out in it etc. Now we have one boy and another one due tomorrow, the reality may be quite different...

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Vindi_andy

posted on 5/5/09 at 03:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by woodster
i wasn't bashing them but i was wondering where you would find 3 other nutters that would get in with you when you were going to go track bashing at full tilt .......


There are several nutters that want to go out in it maybe not on a track but certainly out for a quick blat on the road.

There are at least 3 people I owe a trip out to as they have helped me in the build.

But there is one problem to "track Bashing" 4 up. on most tracks and certainly at donington there is a no rear passenger rule, which kinda kills that Idea.

But TBH the car was never built for track day was built because I wanted a kitcar and something to use for trips out at the weekend

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Danozeman

posted on 5/5/09 at 04:02 PM Reply With Quote
I can see the concept of it, my car doesnt get used as much as id like as my 3 year old cant fit.





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vindicator

posted on 5/5/09 at 04:09 PM Reply With Quote
Woodster, you building a kebab house as your title says......does that mean we will see your kit rolling down the road on a layer of fat......good job I don't go into any kebab houses....

DavyD. your comment about the roll bar is perfect, but please check Vindi andys icon and web site. You will find that the roll over bar a lot more substantial. But did you find an old pic to bash as that car was the preproduction with a mk2 bonnet that has had a mk4 bonnet for a year or two now and modified roll bar

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MikeRJ

posted on 5/5/09 at 04:50 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vindicator
DavyD. your comment about the roll bar is perfect, but please check Vindi andys icon and web site. You will find that the roll over bar a lot more substantial. But did you find an old pic to bash as that car was the preproduction with a mk2 bonnet that has had a mk4 bonnet for a year or two now and modified roll bar



Linking two inadequate roll bars together as Vindicator have on the later cars does not really improve the overall strength a great deal. The main snag is the height of the bars, which would put a huge force on the mountings. The unbraced '7' hoops have the same problem, but their lower height means less force on the mountings.

IMO the design needs some diagonal bracing to make it a worthwhile safety device.

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dave1888

posted on 5/5/09 at 05:34 PM Reply With Quote
As Craig says most rollbars are useless. They need at least a back stay.






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Richard Quinn

posted on 5/5/09 at 06:37 PM Reply With Quote
Ok, some people on here build £250(ish!) Lotus 7 type things from stuff they can find/beg/steal/borrow and others build £15k to £20k MNRs and Daxs but because they all conform then there is no issue. We have all of the BEC v CEC banter and the occasional slagging off of Cateringvans. Occasionally there is a heated discussion about certain handling issues of certain manufacturers offerings but the comments about Vindicator's cars following every single show never cease to amaze me.
Surely we all build a kit car as it is something that we can get reasonably close to what we actually want in a fun car. My own car wouldn't appeal to everyone but that doesn't detract from the enjoyment I've had from building and owning it. Isn't it this diversity that makes kits appealing or should we just banish everyone who doesn't go for an MNR/MK/Mac#1? I just feel that the mainstream 7 people here are exhibiting a lot of the characteristics that they complain about from the Caterham, Atom etc owners.
Hell, there's even a guy with a pickup truck on here (only kidding Blake!)
Anyway, soapbox safely away again now (until the week after the next show no doubt!)

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iank

posted on 5/5/09 at 07:13 PM Reply With Quote
What he said ^^^^^^

I know I'm going to get some stick about my chosen ride's looks, but I'll challenge any/all of them to a race in their 7, on my choice of course... Something like this... or worse





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Vindi_andy

posted on 5/5/09 at 07:25 PM Reply With Quote
I am Andrew's wife and it was my stipulation that we had a four seater car otherwise it would hardly be used. Our girls, who are now 6 and 8, are looking forward to the car being registered and going out in her. We even had them in the garage passing Andrew tools and rivets - they were really keen and very proud when they say my Daddy has built a car at school.

Our car has the Mark IV bonnet which is a great improvement on the original and we know the car is substantial because someone crashed the demonstrator and all they did was smash up the bonnett and front wishbones - no damage at all in the car itself.

In terms of the roll cage, the SVA inspector seemed very impressed on how it fixed - he even commented on how solid it was.

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Ninehigh

posted on 5/5/09 at 07:55 PM Reply With Quote
Actually it doesn't look too bad, I might have to get one made that'll fit 3 chunky teenage kids in the back.

Then again by the time it's built they'll have probably left in their own cars






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Vindi_andy

posted on 6/5/09 at 05:28 PM Reply With Quote
nine, if you can find 3 chunky teenagers at newark if your coming your welcome to try them for size although mine is only upholstered for 2 in the back.
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Ninehigh

posted on 9/5/09 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
Lol I can see the older two being bored out of their skulls and my youngest one will just be watching people. I told swmbo about it and she looked interested, but said there's no way she's putting our baby in one of them (darn )






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