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DarrenW

posted on 25/6/09 at 10:40 AM Reply With Quote
Wiring up CD player in camper van

Interesting problem here - although im sure with an easy solutions except i havent sussed it yet.

My parents have recently bought a VW camper van. I fitted them a new CD player. Its great and works well. However being fitted correctly you have to have keys in ignition to make it work. CD player is fitted in conventional position in dash board.

Now the interesting bit, they use the van to go on holidays. When parked up its nice to have a meal and a glass or 2 of vino, whilst listening to some music. With keys in ignition and consumption of alcohol going on this raises an interesting debate. So, what is the best way to wire up the CD player with a seperate switch to make it come on without keys in ignition, but in such a way that if you forget to power it down it doesnt drain battery and leave said van stranded? (whilst still leaving it conventionally wired for travelling) Im looking for ever so simple solution such as a switch that has buily in timer, that say powers up CD player for 4, 6 or 8 hours etc then switches itself off, but can be switched back on by resetting it. Is there an easy cheap solution that doesnt need small skills in designing electronic circuits and making it from scratch?

If you have a camper van how do you get round this challenge?

Thanks in advance,
Darren.

[Edited on 25/6/09 by DarrenW]






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Howlor

posted on 25/6/09 at 10:44 AM Reply With Quote
You need to run it off the leisure battery, that way while running the engine the battery is charged then when you stop the leisure battery is on it's own so if it flattens it does not affect your starting etc.

Steve

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BenB

posted on 25/6/09 at 10:50 AM Reply With Quote
Yes- seperate battery. Much simpler You could have a toggle switch to go from "normal" to "leisure"...
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DarrenW

posted on 25/6/09 at 10:50 AM Reply With Quote
I thought of that and its a great idea. I was just trying to avoid running new wiring to the dash to make it a little simpler to wire up. Was sort of thinking of taking a permanent live feed through a timer switch and feeding it into the switched live feed. Ive not seen such a switch though and not sure what would happen if the switch is still energised and they decide to go for a drive (obviously on that occasion before the vino is popped open!)






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Howlor

posted on 25/6/09 at 10:51 AM Reply With Quote
To be honest though a radio will not draw too much to flatten a battery as long as the main bettery is in good nick.

Steve

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nick205

posted on 25/6/09 at 10:56 AM Reply With Quote
If there's already a leisure battery fitted then the simplest solution might be to fit a 2nd CD player in the rear of the van. Easier to wire up, no worries about draining your running battery and easier to access when sitting in the back of the van too.
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DarrenW

posted on 25/6/09 at 10:58 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Howlor
To be honest though a radio will not draw too much to flatten a battery as long as the main bettery is in good nick.

Steve



Very true indeed, just thinking of a belts and braces approach. They dont always park up in commercial sites with other people about should the worse happen.

Am i missing something with the camper van / alcohol bit? When does the camper become a caravan as opposed to mode of transport? Im pretty certain if keys are in ignition when partaking in some evening leasure then that would be taken seriously by plod, however presumable the keys will be in the van somewhere?

I can easily rig up a dash switch to supply permanent feed, or replace the switched live feed with permanent one but i have the niggling doubt that main battery might not always be 100% over the years. Maybe taking live feed from leisure battery is way to go and get them into habit of switching CD player off when van is unattended.






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omega 24 v6

posted on 25/6/09 at 11:44 AM Reply With Quote
Split the feed to the cd player using a relay.

87a to the main battery ( battery side of the wire you cut,)
87 to the aux battery through your timer switch and link to 85
86 to earth
30 to the other end of the cut cd player feed.
Use this timer below ( you can set it to various times)

timer switch ( you may get a cheaper one somewhere)





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02GF74

posted on 25/6/09 at 11:46 AM Reply With Quote
what you want is a relay to be deenergised after a delay when there is no music using a small microphone near a speaker - or sense signal to speakers.

could probalby be done without major electronics knowlege.






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Danozeman

posted on 25/6/09 at 12:04 PM Reply With Quote
If you want it simple then id wire up a permanant feed throuh a switch with a diode in the ign fed side so you dont back feed it. Then with ignition off you can just switch it on.

But

I would wire it from the leisure battery so they dont get stranded.





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rayward

posted on 25/6/09 at 12:30 PM Reply With Quote
what about fitting one of THESE inline with the CD player?

hth

Ray

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02GF74

posted on 25/6/09 at 01:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rayward
what about fitting one of THESE inline with the CD player?




well I never knew these existed - for a fiver lloks like job done .... providing the battery has enough oompf left to start the engine.






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