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Irony

posted on 21/8/09 at 09:37 AM Reply With Quote
Heating your build area

I am just starting my build and its in my detached garage that is 5 yards from my house. Its a pleasant size which I can get a VW golf in and open the doors (just). Not as big as it could be for a Viento build but it'll have to do.

I want to build in the evenings after work and it gets bitterly cold in there. I have a little calor gas fire but it doesnt make much of a dent. I have a electric heater and a electric radiator but they are costly to run. I also have a multifuel burning stove but its it needs a chimney which would mean obtaining a chimney. I have no idea where to get cheap cheap cheap metal tube from to form a chimney, any ideas?

Also how do you guys heat your build area/garages??

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philw

posted on 21/8/09 at 09:54 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irony
I am just starting my build and its in my detached garage that is 5 yards from my house. Its a pleasant size which I can get a VW golf in and open the doors (just). Not as big as it could be for a Viento build but it'll have to do.

I want to build in the evenings after work and it gets bitterly cold in there. I have a little calor gas fire but it doesnt make much of a dent. I have a electric heater and a electric radiator but they are costly to run. I also have a multifuel burning stove but its it needs a chimney which would mean obtaining a chimney. I have no idea where to get cheap cheap cheap metal tube from to form a chimney, any ideas?

Also how do you guys heat your build area/garages??


I used a large woodburner in my garage for the last few years it got rediculously hot, -4/5 outside T shirt inside, as for flue/chimney i used a piece of industrial ducting similar to this


i drove around a couple of trading estates and found some laying around on the floor, so in the car it went





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mistergrumpy

posted on 21/8/09 at 09:56 AM Reply With Quote
You can tell Winters coming on when this question gets asked It appears every year. The general thinking is to make sure that the garage is insulated first. Up above and around the door and maybe some on the door. Some people put a carpet down to keep the cold in the floor off when they're working on it and after that it's just wrap up really with layers.
I won't have this hassle this year as I'm all finished on mine. Hooray!

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UncleFista

posted on 21/8/09 at 09:57 AM Reply With Quote
Machine mart sell steel flues in sections, not cheap but work well.

Link to MM flues

I use it with my stove, the flue has outlasted my old cast iron stove, and is now providing sterling service with my home-made gas bottle stove







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mistergrumpy

posted on 21/8/09 at 10:09 AM Reply With Quote
I like that gas bottle stove. I might make one. If I could just get this darn tap off the top. Pass me that hammer will you....
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speedyxjs

posted on 21/8/09 at 10:20 AM Reply With Quote
I have a great solution and its very locost. WORK HARDER!!!
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Slater

posted on 21/8/09 at 10:30 AM Reply With Quote
I use thermal coverall (padded coveralls) over my normal clothes. Stardard north sea offshore safety wear. If it's really cold I do a few star jumps to get the circulation going.

Very locost and eco friendly.





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Irony

posted on 21/8/09 at 10:32 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
I have a great solution and its very locost. WORK HARDER!!!


Hmm a very valuable point. However when a bungy cord is a full stretch and the hooks snaps whipping the metal end into your knuckles it is best if the temp is above 0 degrees.

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grusks2

posted on 21/8/09 at 11:25 AM Reply With Quote
Ive a little space heater ( gas powered ) or i use the patio heater which seams better but her indoor complained





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graememk

posted on 21/8/09 at 11:26 AM Reply With Quote
right i might be able to help you here .

i have 3m of stainless flexi flu, yours for £30, brand new not used as i bought to much when i put my stove in.

and i'm 25 miles from lincoln, this will coil up in a family size car

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Dangle_kt

posted on 21/8/09 at 11:35 AM Reply With Quote
Stand/kneel on cardboard or carpet wear a hat and fingerless gloves.

Use infrared heaters, they heat objects, not the air so no problems loosing the warm air though gaps.

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MakeEverything

posted on 21/8/09 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
^^^ What he said.

I wear overalls and clothes underneath, normally a tshirt and jumper. The trousers are jogging bottoms normally. Cheap to replace when you burn holes in them when welding.





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MikeR

posted on 21/8/09 at 11:56 AM Reply With Quote
i've been through this and this is my solution which i've found effective.

Firstly board your attic space. Make access holes so you can get in. I did mine with the really cheap flimsy fibre board. The idea is to reduce the volume of air you need to warm up.

Secondly put gaffer tape doubled back on itself around the garage door - stop the drafts coming in.

Thirdly get rid of the absolutely huge heat sink .... the garage door. Its metal, if you heat up the inside it will just soap it up and transfer it to the cold outside. I bought some bubble wrap from ebay and stuck it to it. Cheap and looks awful but made a difference. This winter i'm sticking an old ikea duvet on it instead.

Once you've done that then you can worry about heating the garage as your heat wont be lost. I've got thermal overalls and apart from getting cold hands i was fine. For this winter i've got fingerless gloves.

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mad4x4

posted on 21/8/09 at 12:09 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by UncleFista
Machine mart sell steel flues in sections, not cheap but work well.

Link to MM flues

I use it with my stove, the flue has outlasted my old cast iron stove, and is now providing sterling service with my home-made gas bottle stove




Got any plans etc for this or similar





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greglogan

posted on 21/8/09 at 12:26 PM Reply With Quote
Guys

my tuppence worth - for what it's worth - is if you're using any kind of gas appliance - especially patio heaters please spend the money and buy a CO (CarbonMonoxide) detector as gas appliances are known to give off lots. Plus in a small enclosed space the effects are quicker. CO does not smell nor can you see it.

On a more selfish note, my mate works at mobile homes and is a corgi registered installer/repairer and I asked him for a wee gas heater that I could use to heat water to wash my hands in after working at the mini or the locost. He may have mis-understood cos he appeared one saturday evening with a new 70,000 BTU gas combi boiler that was unwanted froma new mobile home (customers wanted oil) that would heat my whole house never mind the garage! So now, my garage heats with the 6 radiators we fitted in about 15mins (its a biggish garage) and I have instant hot water when I want it! Sorted.

Greg.

PS I have a CO detector fitted BTW.

[Edited on 21/8/09 by greglogan]





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Irony

posted on 21/8/09 at 12:41 PM Reply With Quote
FLEX FLUE

quote:
Originally posted by graememk
right i might be able to help you here .

i have 3m of stainless flexi flu, yours for £30, brand new not used as i bought to much when i put my stove in.

and i'm 25 miles from lincoln, this will coil up in a family size car



What is the Diameter of the flex flue?

[Edited on 21/8/09 by Irony]

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Irony

posted on 21/8/09 at 12:55 PM Reply With Quote
Built up area.

Also on another note does anybody know of any regulations regarding solid fuel burning stove in a upbuilt area. i,e Lincoln town centre. I live in a end of terrace?

Would I be better taking the flue pipe out through the brick wall, perhaps using the hole that was made for the tumble dryer or taking the flue pipe up through the roof? The roof would mean chopping a whole into the slates and also the roof is held up by wooden beams which might be within 500mm of the pipe?

Lots of questions, sorry.

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BenB

posted on 21/8/09 at 02:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Slater
I use thermal coverall (padded coveralls) over my normal clothes. Stardard north sea offshore safety wear. If it's really cold I do a few star jumps to get the circulation going.

Very locost and eco friendly.


I wear padded overalls too. I don't bother with the star jumps, exercise makes you skinny so you feel the cold more

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t16turbotone

posted on 21/8/09 at 03:57 PM Reply With Quote
Please people, DONT use flueless gas appliances in your garages (superser, patio heaters) there was a case in coventry a couple of years ago where a man and his 3 sons thought they would warm the garage with a patio heater a little while they worked late on a kitchen extension..... they all fell asleep and never awoke....leaving a poor wife/mother devastated
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UncleFista

posted on 21/8/09 at 07:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4


Got any plans etc for this or similar


No, not really, just kinda copied the layout of my previous cast iron stove.
I made a small door at the bottom so I could control the airflow, made a grate so I could burn coal too.

There's pictures in my "Gas bottle butchery" folder on Flickr HERE







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