speedyxjs
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 07:23 PM |
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Want to start painting
The only external panel i have made so far is the scuttle but i want to get it painted.
I was thinking about adding some kind of filler to smooth over the rivets the rivets. What is the best stuff to use?
Also what kind of paint should i use? I dont have/cant afford a compressor so it will have to be spray cans unless i can find a compressor and spray
gun for around £50 (will look on fleabay later but unlikely).
Finally, before i make and fit the side and rear panels, is it better to paint them on the car or off before fitting?
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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lewis
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 07:31 PM |
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i would say to paint before as rivits frett so would crack the paint leaving you open to the weather unless you can get a flexable primer?
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 07:32 PM |
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spray cans dont work well at an angle - as i found out this weekend... so I suggest taking the item off - plus it saves masking everything up and you
don't miss any spots.
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watsonpj
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 07:55 PM |
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how about a hvlp type spray gun the earlex 1900 is only £50
here
or there are others on ebay for around the same price
or pay a bit more £90 and get the apollo spraymate which was
Voted best buy by Practical Classics Magazine Spring 2005.
I'm still trying to decide if I want to cellulose spray or flowcoat my car, but winter is coming so I must decide soon.
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 08:15 PM |
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That spray gun looks cool 
What about filler?
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 08:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
That spray gun looks cool
What about filler?
Only good for spraying preservative on sheds and fences - Sorry
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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watsonpj
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 08:40 PM |
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the spraymate is better from the reviews I've read
apollo
this has been review by a couple of car mags and if you do a quick search around has had some good mentions on some other car sites. It looks like
there is a bit more hand finishing than with a really professional system but then again can I really get the best from a top quality system.
I've just spent the winter glassing up the doors on my fury as they were a complete waste of time and I have just used p40 (bridging filler) and
p38 to complete the bodywork. I have also tried some Upol filler (easysand) but i haven't found that to be so good as the p38. Although it
wouldn't surprise me if they come off the same production line as the tins,weight and everything bar the printing looks the same.
pete
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blakep82
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 08:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
That spray gun looks cool
What about filler?
Only good for spraying preservative on sheds and fences - Sorry
+1
read the spec
quote:
Earlex HV1900 HVLP Spray Kit 400W Suitable for spraying thin to medium paints including preservatives, stains, lacquers, shed and fence treatments
and acrylics. Supplied with 2.7m hose.
400W Motor
0.9Ltr Reservoir
3 Spray Patterns
Carry Handle
really not worth the £50 IMO if you have lots of spraying to do, or if you want to learn to properly, a proper compressor is a definite investment.
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tomprescott
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 08:40 PM |
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Have a look in a frosts catalogue for a flexible filler, I don't know of any off-hand but there may be one in there.
As for a compressor, I would suggest getting a decent sized compressor as it'll come in handy for way more than painting. Guns are reasonably
cheap from screwfix or machinemart. HTH, Good luck, Tom
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watsonpj
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 08:50 PM |
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sorry blake thats not the spec thats the advertising blurb the spec includes cellulose
look here
but that said the earlex is just the cheaper of the possible units. I agree however that the compressor spray gun is the better alternative but these
will still be better than rattly cans IMHO.
pete
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BenB
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 09:47 PM |
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I think you'll struggle to get a comp with gun for £50. I think I paid £85 for my compressor which included various bits including a reasonable
gun. I'd need to install a filter in mine but other than that it's not bad.
Rattle cans get quite costly if you start getting through them.....
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austin man
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 09:52 PM |
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you can buy brush on repaint, with a little elbow grease flatting it you can get excellent results. I have found that if using a can pop it in some
hot water for a short time this increases the pressure it sprays at and also aids the drying time rivet will inevitably pop through again at some
time. Ideally you should use an etch primer on to new metal.
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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Chippy
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 10:54 PM |
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Having used one I can say the the Earlex is a nasty cheap bit of kit, wouldn't touch one at any price, whereas the Appolo is quite a good gun,
not as good as a decent compressor fed gun but can turn out a fair job. Same old, same old, you get what you pay for. Cheers Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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blakep82
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 11:22 PM |
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don't know what peoples thoughts on
this are
its more than you wanted to spend, but its a small compressor, sold with a spray gun, so they're kind of matching it for you.
might be worth going into machine mart and having a chat with them?
personally i got
this one so
i know nothing about the small ones.
i'm sure mine was only about £400 when i got it...
[Edited on 25/8/09 by blakep82]
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 26/8/09 at 06:18 AM |
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^^^ Well i may be able to stretch to the £90 when i get paid and will work out roughy the same as a compressor for £50 and a decent spray gun 
The later one is waaaaay out of my price range 
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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blakep82
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| posted on 26/8/09 at 06:21 AM |
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wait and see if theres any more comments on it first  i don't know if its any good, so see what others think before getting it
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Alan M
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 posted on 26/8/09 at 10:01 AM |
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The Apollo looks so good, I just bought one!
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Lightning
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| posted on 26/8/09 at 10:20 AM |
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In the past I have been to automotive paint suppliers that have made cellulose paint to the colour you want in a air asshole can. They have a fan
spray patten that gives a good finish. One can should do one wing. I sprayed the bonnet on my old Lotus elan. After flattening and polishing I thought
the finish was excellent. I wouldnt touch Halfords paint etc.
Steve
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