thunderace
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 01:49 PM |
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Looking For Someone Who Can Rock Climb Or Absail, SOS scotland
this if for a guy on the golf forum.
looking for someone who can rockclimb or absail to help with dog stuck on a rock face up at loch doon
my dad was up walking with my dog at loch doon when the dog chased a goat and has fallen over the edge, dont know where he is exactly but can be heard
barking and we dont know anyone who would be able to help.
Tried police mountain rescue and the heartless said it was only a dog and would cost to much, so much for the police helping people!!!!
willing to pay whatever it takes
if u know anyone or can help yourself that would be brilliant
you can pm or txt/ phone me on 07783225739
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eznfrank
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 01:53 PM |
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Is this for real??
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thunderace
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 01:54 PM |
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yes theres the phone number they are all very upset please help if you can
[Edited on 14/12/09 by thunderace]
[Edited on 14/12/09 by thunderace]
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 02:06 PM |
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Maybe contact the local mountaineering/climbing/walking club 
Hope you get it sorted mate, fingers crossed.
[Edited on 14/12/09 by liam.mccaffrey]
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ChrisW
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 02:10 PM |
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I used to be an abseiling instructor, but that was 10 years ago, and I've not got any kit of my own - just used to use the club's gear.
Guess that doesn't really help...?
Chris
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adithorp
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 02:27 PM |
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Phone the RSPCA.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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02GF74
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 02:27 PM |
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bolox to that - anyone wishing to risk their neck and then ending up dead/crippled or require rescuing themselveds is an idiot .... all for a dog?
no doubt when the freeze takes hold, we'll be reading about some idiot drowning after their dog ran onto ice.
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MikeR
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 02:36 PM |
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tell them to contact the local university / sports centres.
One is bound to have a rock climbing club. They'll probably be interested - especially if you're offering to help with their funding.
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graememk
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 02:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
bolox to that - anyone wishing to risk their neck and then ending up dead/crippled or require rescuing themselveds is an idiot .... all for a dog?
no doubt when the freeze takes hold, we'll be reading about some idiot drowning after their dog ran onto ice.
i've saved worse than that !!! its still someones pet
[Edited on 14/12/09 by graememk]
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02GF74
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 02:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
tell them to contact the local university
. They'll probably be interested - especially if you're offering to help with their funding.
 
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02GF74
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 03:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by graememk
quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
bolox to that - anyone wishing to risk their neck and then ending up dead/crippled or require rescuing themselveds is an idiot .... all for a dog?
no doubt when the freeze takes hold, we'll be reading about some idiot drowning after their dog ran onto ice.
i'ved saved worse tha that !!! its still someones pet
if the owner knows that his/her dog chases after widelife, then the dog should be kept on a lead.
noway is any dog, nor any pet, including my cat, worth someone risking their life, certainly not my life that's for sure.
tough tiities I'm afraid.
anyways, there'll be loads of dogs up for rehoming in 3 weeks time, so what's the problem?
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andyharding
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 03:05 PM |
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I'll help but but you'll have to fly me up tomorrow
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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balidey
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 03:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
not my life that's for sure.
tough tiities I'm afraid.
anyways, there'll be loads of dogs up for rehoming in 3 weeks time, so what's the problem?
You're all heart 
But, lets say that the local mountain rescue jump on the case, then its rescued at a cost of hundreds of thousands, then the press will get on the
case saying that an internet discussion saved the dogs life, and we all get a warm tingly feeling inside.
General (ignorant) public love this sort of crap.
But, I do hope the owner gets the dog back
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luke
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 03:20 PM |
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Tried RSPCA? They are normally good at getting emergency services backsides into gear, I also know they have specialist rescue crews.
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luke
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 03:33 PM |
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Infact, what he's asking is a lot. You can't just have any joe bloggs that does some indoor climbing. Whoever it is needs to have
experience in outdoor rigging, and mountain rescue. You would also need a team of people to pull the dog up as you would have no chance of climbing up
with the weight of a dog as well. And it could be a few hundred foot face with not a chance of abseiling to the bottom.
Finally if the dogs fallen any decent height its going to need immediate vet attention.
I know its hard to deal with, but he's best to leave it to the professionals, imagine how he would feel if someone inexperienced was to get into
difficulty or fall?
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MikeR
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 03:48 PM |
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Hence my suggestion of doing it via a proper club - they'll hopefully have the kit and experience to do a proper job and not risk more lives.
I can understand the comments people have made about "let it die" but having grown attached to my g/f dog over the last year i'm not
sure i could if it was Charlie.
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andyharding
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 04:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by luke
Infact, what he's asking is a lot. You can't just have any joe bloggs that does some indoor climbing. Whoever it is needs to have
experience in outdoor rigging, and mountain rescue. You would also need a team of people to pull the dog up as you would have no chance of climbing up
with the weight of a dog as well. And it could be a few hundred foot face with not a chance of abseiling to the bottom.
Finally if the dogs fallen any decent height its going to need immediate vet attention.
I know its hard to deal with, but he's best to leave it to the professionals, imagine how he would feel if someone inexperienced was to get into
difficulty or fall?
This is well within the capabilities of a single person who has the proper skills and equipment. I agree however, that Joe Bloggs without said skills
and equipment could get in to some bother requiring an even greater rescue effort. That would of course get the dog rescued too though...
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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graememk
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 04:18 PM |
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person or animal its all good training at the end of the day, what you learn saving a animal can be put into practice saving a real life...
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Flamez
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 04:38 PM |
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Emergency services will respond at the request of the RSPCA you need to phone them first.
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luke
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 04:41 PM |
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I agree with trying, and as a dog owner myself I would try what ever I could.
But as an experienced climber both indoors and outdoors, this isn't a simple single rope, and abseil. Your looking multiple ropes and rigging,
you also have a distressed dog and owner(s) to deal with.
I've done a training course in rescue emergency care, nothing on ropes, and the pressure you end up in emergency situations is undescribable.
We were told a story of llamberis mountain rescue team that were called out to a man on snowdon who had had collapsed. They arrived and did 15 minutes
of CPR each while waiting for the helicopter. After the pickup the two men were that exhausted from the 15 minutes that they almost weren't able
to walk off the hill and almost became casualties themselves.
I know it sounds immoral, but when out on the hills your in a whole different world. Help can be hours or days away, and sometimes you just have to
accept that who or what you are trying to rescue is beyond help.
I've never been in the situation, but one of the guys on my course, held a guy in his arms as he died from a heart attack. In the streets with
ambulance access he could of been saved, but the guy knew that he only had half an hour to get a defribulator to save him, and with nearest help 2
hours away, it was beyond control.
Bit of a pointless rant but what I mean is that emotions run high and adrenaline pumps, and someone trying to be superman could easily fall hard.
I'm experienced climber, but I would feel far out of my depth and experience so would have to refuse. Hard to do, yet in any kind of rescue
situation you never ever put yourself into danger.
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andyharding
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 04:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by luke
I've never been in the situation, but one of the guys on my course, held a guy in his arms as he died from a heart attack. In the streets with
ambulance access he could of been saved, but the guy knew that he only had half an hour to get a defribulator to save him, and with nearest help 2
hours away, it was beyond control.
Some of the stuff people spout on this site and pass off as fact never ceases to amaze me.
A heart attack can be stopped with as little as rest and an aspirin. Every walker first aid kit should contain aspirin for this reason.
Statistically, the chances of survival after cardiac arrest reduce by 10% for each minute before ALS (advanced life support/defib) arrives. So if your
not shocked within 10 mins your as good as dead.
Where you're half hour has come from I don't know.
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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02GF74
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 04:56 PM |
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^^^ I agree with Luke.
The best that can be done is to chuck a couple of cans of pedigree chum for the poor dog. No need for it to be uncomfortable.
And to show I am not heartless, throw down a tin opener too.
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MikeR
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 05:33 PM |
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^^^^^ that made me giggle 
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 14/12/09 at 08:08 PM |
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Can't help I'm afraid , think my climbing days are over. Hope you get it sorted soon .
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thunderace
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| posted on 15/12/09 at 10:06 PM |
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just sent me an update the dogs ok
""""""just a little update folks
good news, dogs home safe and sound, doesnt seem to be injured at all, just taking him to vets for a check over.
id like to thank everyone for thier advice, help, phonecalls and pm's. its things like this that restore your faith in people.
big thanks to the sspca and also the galloway forrest rangers, couldn't have been more helpful, at least our tax money isnt totally wasted on
the police etc.
best christmas present ive ever had anyway
so a big thanks from me and little bruno"""""
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