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theconrodkid

posted on 21/9/02 at 05:48 PM Reply With Quote
tube size

Ok chaps,so a 1" square tube has a strength or resistance to bending of 1 unit,what is the strength in units of 1 1/2" or2" tube
of the same gauge?
no wild gueses please

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chrisg

posted on 21/9/02 at 08:05 PM Reply With Quote
Um........one

No... 1,245,634,334

Er.....twelvety!!!!

(Wild enough for you john?)

I don't know BTW.

Cheers

Chris







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theconrodkid

posted on 21/9/02 at 08:21 PM Reply With Quote
I guessed that
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stephen_gusterson

posted on 21/9/02 at 10:19 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Ok chaps,so a 1" square tube has a strength or resistance to bending of 1 unit,what is the strength in units of 1 1/2" or2" tube
of the same gauge?
no wild gueses please



if it were that simple, i guess there woulnt be such stuff as 'finite stress analysis'.

atb

steve






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theconrodkid

posted on 21/9/02 at 11:35 PM Reply With Quote
can you use finite stress to power infinite improbibility drives?i know the answer to that its 42
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Peteff

posted on 22/9/02 at 11:05 AM Reply With Quote
You want some vallium filled tubing then you won't get any stress. As for the infinite probability drive, I bought a time machine next week to check it out and it only exists in parallel universes. The time machine broke down next tuesday so I'm stuck for a day or two.

yours, Pete





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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theconrodkid

posted on 22/9/02 at 11:19 AM Reply With Quote
Dont you just hate it when that happens
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Alan B

posted on 22/9/02 at 12:46 PM Reply With Quote
OK, first let's not confuse strength with "resistance to bending" they are different things. A material's ability to resist bending is a function of a material property (youngs modulus) and a geometric property (moment of inertia). We are talking about the same material and doing a comparison so we can ignore factor one.

For a square tube (ignoring the radiussed corners) the formula for moment of inertia (let's call it "I" and not go into any more detail )

I equals:
A to the power 4 - B to the power 4, all divided by 12

(A = the ouside dimn. B = the inside dimn.)

But the 12 is constant so we can ignore that too for comparison.

So for 1" x say 1/16"WT we have

0.414 units (again, forget what they are)

and 1.5" x 1/16"WT we have

1.488 units

and 2" x 1/16"WT we have

3.640

So compared to 1"
1.5" = 3.5 times better
2" = 8.79 times better

Hope that helps

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interestedparty

posted on 22/9/02 at 02:15 PM Reply With Quote
Was that a guess, Alan?

John





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I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!

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Peteff

posted on 22/9/02 at 04:02 PM Reply With Quote
As quoted by Homer, " Bah, You can prove anything with facts ".

yours, Pete.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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theconrodkid

posted on 22/9/02 at 05:15 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Alan,at least we have someone who knows what their doin!the rest of you had better go back to school,see ya there!
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chrisg

posted on 22/9/02 at 06:00 PM Reply With Quote
Not Twelvety then? Oh right.

Good of you to take time off from the Virus wars to give us the benefit Alan!!

(leave 'em to it, mate)

Cheers

Chris





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stephen_gusterson

posted on 22/9/02 at 06:40 PM Reply With Quote
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Not Twelvety then? Oh right.

Good of you to take time off from the Virus wars to give us the benefit Alan!!

(leave 'em to it, mate)

Cheers

Chris



just looked on tol after a couple weeks.

what a really trivial argument.

That graeme guy seems a bit short tempered in a lot of his posts over the 2 years ive been on that list.

Nice to know riots can still start up on there without me

Old minicountryman1961 has been real quiet lately


atb

steve






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MrFluffy

posted on 22/9/02 at 07:41 PM Reply With Quote
Talking of youngs modulus, time to insert appropriately cheesy engineering joke :-

Two cats sliding down a tin roof, which one hits the floor first? the one with the lowest mu of course...

(apologies no funny u symbol..)

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Alan B

posted on 22/9/02 at 09:48 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
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Good of you to take time off from the Virus wars to give us the benefit Alan!!

(leave 'em to it, mate)

Cheers

Chris


You noticed me flexing my moderator muscles eh?

I wanted to say "shut the f**k up", but it's not very diplomatic

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john_s

posted on 22/9/02 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
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I wanted to say "shut the f**k up", but it's not very diplomatic

No, but it can be very effective!
John





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