Poll: Attitudes towards our policemen/women [View Results]
They do a good job, I wouldn't do it
They do a good job in difficult circumstances
They do a mediocre job in difficult circumstances
They are pathetic
I respect them doing their job, but their priorities are wrong
Indifference... who care's?
I dont like them, but would help in certain circumstances
Don't like them, but wouldn't go out of my way to help them
Detest them - scum of the earth and would actively waste their time if I could get away with it
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Hellfire

posted on 17/9/04 at 05:28 PM Reply With Quote
Attitudes towards our policemen/women

Just as a general opinion, what do most of you think of the police lately:






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rusty nuts

posted on 17/9/04 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
I like the police womens uniform, can't get one to fit though!!
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Deckman001

posted on 17/9/04 at 05:40 PM Reply With Quote
I wanted to vote for more than 1, might try again, he he, I wouldn't do their job, too much critisism from most people, but we all need to remember that they don't make the rules, they are just payed to stop us breaking them

Jason (Not a Policeman)






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JoelP

posted on 17/9/04 at 05:42 PM Reply With Quote
as with all people, theres good eggs and bad eggs. good outweighs the bad in my experience, ive only met one miserable git copper. i've even had a laugh with them whilst getting nicked...






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RoadkillUK

posted on 17/9/04 at 05:54 PM Reply With Quote
I find them useless, don't ever see them around here.

I've reported a driver who lives next door to me, I know he has no roadtax, I know he hasn't registered the vehicle to himself, I would bet a months wage that the car has no MOT, no insurance and I also that he has no licence.

What do the police say?
We'll have to catch him while he's driving around. My reply to that was, I didn't know speed camera's could detect tax evasion.

Well it's been 3 months so far and nothing.

Oh, I've also been calling the DVLA for 3 months too, and I'm pleased to report that they are sending letters to the owner.





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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 17/9/04 at 05:59 PM Reply With Quote
my mrs is training to be a copper

my opinions are up and down

on one hand i have had the pleasure of being stopped by a top bloke he was a really nice guy and spoke to me with out sounding smug or condecending.

also i was stopped by a complete arse hole once, who stood me in the road on a busy street whilst questioning me. i was stopped for "appearing to conceal something in my lap, when i spotted the police" he searched my car, didn't find anything and when they finished just walked off, didn't apologise say thankyou or anything, just got in his car and drove off. the funny thing was that if he they had even had their eyes open they would seen the plastic bag of unmarked pills in the glovebox (it was glucosamine sulphate, good for your bones and cartilage)





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ReMan

posted on 17/9/04 at 09:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Just as a general opinion, what do most of you think of the police lately:

Have we had a recent "experience"

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Hellfire

posted on 17/9/04 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ReMan
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Just as a general opinion, what do most of you think of the police lately:

Have we had a recent "experience"


No... I'm getting more than a little frustrated with the way the police force seem to be heading. If the crime generates no revenue - theft, burglary, mugging etc etc it seems to get second priority at best. I haven't given the force any money (speeding tax) for the last 15 years or so, and I'm wondering if I pay more speeding tax will I get priority if I (god forbid) get burgled? Probably not!!!






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Chris_R

posted on 17/9/04 at 09:54 PM Reply With Quote
When I worked in a city centre bar, about 5 years ago, I used to get pulled about three times a week. I'd usually be on my way home, driving a crap car and be alone. More often than not the local fuzz would be courteous, if not a little robot like in their tact, but there were a couple of exceptions to the rule.

Early one morning, about 06.00, I was pulled after I clipped a kerb exiting a junction. The guy that pulled me was arrogant impolite and obnoxious, until I told him that I was the assistant manager of a local bar. From that point on, and after staring for a prolonged period at the number pinned to his shoulder, He became noticeably more human, even polite.

On another occasion I was stopped by a lone officer who I was quite aggressive with. I threw a wallet containing my V5, MOT and insurance documents at him which prompted him to tell me that it was late and that I'd prolly be better off on my way home. That was the third night in a row that I'd been stopped and he didn't even open the wallet.

Amazingly, I was also pulled in a suburb of Newcastle called Heaton. There were three other people in the car and the officer that had stopped me told me who the registered keeper of the car I was driving was before asking me if I was that person. He told me to be on my way at which point I laughed and asked him if he'd like to see some ID to confirm I was in fact the person that he told me I was, but he declined. I suggested that it would be wise and perused my point until he told me to go or I'd be arrested. He never looked at any ID.

As far as I can recall, they are the only incidents involving me and the police that didn't reflect a professional approach on the officers part, so on the whole I agree with Joel, there are the good, the bad and the foolish, but the most part good.





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theconrodkid

posted on 17/9/04 at 10:21 PM Reply With Quote
have to agree with hellfire on this one,plenty cops checking the bus lanes but you try to report a real crime and their all too busy.
some chavs ride gopeds all hours of the day on the road and pavement,only after it was put in the paper and questions were asked as to why nothing was done did plog pay them a visit,took the bikes away,back on them a few hours later,not seen plod since.
drive yr car with no rent in the window and they will have it crushed!





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zetec

posted on 18/9/04 at 06:57 AM Reply With Quote
I used to be supportive, but after I recently reported a crime in progress (4 nice 15" alloys being nicked from my rear garden) and found they could not give a poo things have changed. I did suggest that if I had walked up to the local cop shop and walked off with their nice hanging baskets I might expect to get a visit and be nicked so why do I not get the same level of service when I have a crime against me?

If the police force were a private company how would you rate them? Then again they would be bust in a year when you see how much of our money they waste.

I pay my taxes, I stick to the law and care about the state of my country but along with lots of other people I know have no faith in the Police to look after my rights or defend my interests and property.

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spunky

posted on 18/9/04 at 08:49 AM Reply With Quote
Hmmm, this poll got me thinking.
When I was younger and a little psuedo anarchist I went through the 'All coppers are b*****s' stage, but now I've grown up () I realise the job they are doing is a lousy one. Ask yourself would you be that eager to go to a reported assault deep in Moss Side without full artillary backup? No, me neither.
Its not the front line plod that make up the rules. That comes from home office and police chiefs.
The persecution of the motorist is safe easy and profitable and the accountants that run the force like the profitable bit, so thats where the resources are used.
But have to agree there are good coppers and bad coppers. Thankfully my experience of them has been mainly good.
Wouldn't do their job for what they get paid, or without a sidearm.

John





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Cita

posted on 18/9/04 at 08:54 AM Reply With Quote
I think it's the same everywhere and it's difficult to put a tag on the whole as being bad or good.
Society has changed and so has the philosophy of the security services.
I remember the time when me and my friends were "arrested" for "stealing" fruit at our docks (age 10 !).
They held us in untill diner time was way passed (summer vacation) and then delivered each of us in a policevan driving around town very slowely so that everybody could see us.
I can tell you that each of us had the time of their life when we got home.
Story is that the whole incident was closed for the police,no reports made-no fine to pay,they relied on the parents for punishment and i can tell you it certainly worked (couldn't sit properly for 2 days)
If the police would do something like this today it probably would hit the newspaper.
Some of them are real good people trying to help citizens whenever they can but the amount of policeman that give you the feeling that they are there to harrase you,is growing i'm afraid.

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Brooky

posted on 18/9/04 at 10:03 AM Reply With Quote
I am a Fire fighter and have to deal with the police evrey day and have to say most of them are useless.
If we get a fire with a suspicious origin we call for the police, who generally give us an ETA of 3+ hours so we put it out and leave it for them.
One friday night/sat morning ( 1 am ish )in the summer we got a car on fire on a dodgy estate, which was clearly arson. So we called for the police as usual , and as usual they were all for too busy to attend the crime scene and do the job that they are paid for.
BUT on the way back to station not 5 minutes later we got a call to a house fire - persons reprted. Befor we arrived there were 5 police cars and 8 officers milling around outside.
They were too busy to do their job but not too busy to watch us do ours.

[Edited on 18/9/04 by Brooky]

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Mark Allanson

posted on 18/9/04 at 07:32 PM Reply With Quote
I voted other, police priorities have changed over the years.

In 1978, I was 17, I had just bought an Alfa Romeo 1300 GT, I bought it from a retired alcoholic opera singer, the car at the time of purchase was wedged in the gateway to the car park of the Badger Inn in Lelant, she could not get it out. I offered to help, I tried a trolley jack, but could not shift it, she said give me £100 and you can have it (1969 car, probably worth about £500 at the time, probably worth about £6000 now!). Money changed hands and I was the proud owner. A couple of months after, I had just serviced the car and took it out on the only bit of dual carriageway in the area for a blast, it was 2:00AM and I blasted up the Camborne bypass at about 120mph, turned around at the end and blasted back. The bypass used to stop at Treswithain at the time and as anyone who knows it knows, the last mile is downhill and I managed to get an 'indicated' 135mph, I pulled off the slip road to find a Mk2 escort in a pretty shade of pale blue with white doors blocking my exit at the top. A very burly sargeant got out of the car and slowly walked over to me and asked me to get out of the car, I got out, and he got hold of me by the throat and said 'I you ever do that again I will tell your Dad, and let I'll him sort it out' He gave me a moderate slap around the head and followed me home.

A couple of years ago the alarms at work went off at 2:00AM, I got the phone call as I am nearest, grabbed my 12 month old Rottweiler, and drove the X19 down to work, only about 1/2 mile away. Xena had a habit of trying to eat the tax disc when in the car, so I pulled it from the screen and put it in the glove box and carried on to work. I arrived before the police, me and Xena went for a check. Nothing found, but when I got back, the 2 coppers, about 25 year olds were all over the X19, they were checking tyres, noticed that the tax was not being displayed, they asked for documents (Yeah right I always carry them at 2:00 in the morning), they had no interest in checking out the security at work, I suppose that giving my car the 3rd degree was an easier option. It took about 3 months to sort out the tax thing, they did not dispute the car was taxed, just the display thing, I had to go to the local police station twice to get it sorted, it took the intervention of an insurance assessor who I know well to sort it out (he is a freemason), one call and it was all over.

The police these day are more interested in getting a statistic at any costs rather than doing the job that they are paid for, its a real shame, I think the old ways did work





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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 18/9/04 at 10:48 PM Reply With Quote
i remember a thing that may be a myth or a true story, not sure

some fella had been burgled and rang the police saying that he thought there was a burglar downstairs and was told someone would be round if they were passing through the area as they were extremely busy

then he rang rang the police back and told them not to bother attending as he had shot the thief(he hadn't actually). guess what, 20 officers and helicopters circling within 10 mins

not sure if its true probably not, but it does sum up the impression that the plod give off.

as has been said before its the easy crimes they go for, clicky with a speed camera easy, do investigative work to solve a shed break in with the loss of hundreds of pounds worth of tools is just simply not worth it for the police they get nothing out of it. i am not being critical just realistic,solving most crimes involves too much work for very little benefit

it a sad fact of life





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