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John P

posted on 16/5/13 at 12:49 PM Reply With Quote
Any Professionsl Decorators who could give me some advice?

I've been asked by a friend of a friend if I could re-decorate the seven internal doors which run off their hallway.

The doors are two panel, arch top moulded doors and the current paint finish is immaculate but they don't like the fact that it has yellowed slightly so they're obviously perfectionists which is what concerns me.

In the past I've used Dulux Once because it seems to go on well and give a good finish but it does certainly yellow and takes a long time to dry.

Bearing in mind I'm not a professional, what type and make of paint would you recommend (Will be either gloss or satin white).

I've been considering either Johnstons Aqua Gloss or Crown.

Also have you any idea of a fair price per door? I was only going to sand down and give a single coat because the existing finish is so good.

John.

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Aaron_n_Sim

posted on 16/5/13 at 01:47 PM Reply With Quote
I'd only ever recommend dulux, most per are inferior in comparison, dulux guarantee their products, if its yellowing then the woodwork was not prepared properly or they are heavy smokers, I paint £million plus houses regularly! there are some high end brands, farrow & ball, fired earth you could try! But i personally would stick with dulux.

The current quality of finish is irrelevant, you need to rub down, apply one coat of an oil based undercoat, and 2 top coats, if the current finish is as good as you say then you'll get away with 1 top coat, but I'd not leave out the undercoat it will give a better adhesive surface for your top coat, rub down lightly between coats. I'm basing this advice on dulux's instruction of use and how I work to achieve the standards I and my customers expect & require.

If you think you can finish in a day, ie half day one day to prep and undercoat, then half day to top coat, ( bear in mind drying time 24hrs to be safe) £150 day rate or 40-50per door is fair I think, I price based per day, you wouldn't be unfair asking for two days!

I hope this helps

Aaron

P.s. don't use DIY products ie one coat paints

[Edited on 16/5/13 by Aaron_n_Sim]





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mcerd1

posted on 16/5/13 at 03:31 PM Reply With Quote
well I'm not a pro and I don't know what I'm doing with paint at all....

but I'd not heard good things about the once paint and the like and a pro painter told me to stick to the dulux trade stuff....

they were not in a great condition before I started....

I just sanded my doors down a bit, then used 2 coats of proper dulux trade undercoat and 2 top coats of dulux trade gloss with just a little sanding between coats - they actually turned out really quite good despite my lack of ability


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fesycresy

posted on 16/5/13 at 03:34 PM Reply With Quote
I assume you mean Dulux 'Trade' gloss and not the normal B&Q stuff?

I've asked the deccy's on site in the past and they said to go to the Trade Centre.

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Aaron_n_Sim

posted on 16/5/13 at 04:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fesycresy
I assume you mean Dulux 'Trade' gloss and not the normal B&Q stuff?

I've asked the deccy's on site in the past and they said to go to the Trade Centre.

Dulux Trade



Yes dulux trade, you can now find it in most DIY stores, or go to a Brewers you'll probably get a better deal!





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cliftyhanger

posted on 16/5/13 at 04:56 PM Reply With Quote
Brewers are horribly expensive unless you have a trade account (or can blag a cash sale on somebody elses)

Wickes seem to be stocking Dulux trade stuff now, not sure if everything though.

BTW I have found eggshell paints very good to use. And seem to yellow more slowly than gloss. And more forgiving.

Dulux did have a problem with their paint formulation yellowing very quickly a while ago, it was on one of the consumer programs. It must be sorted by now.

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mark chandler

posted on 16/5/13 at 05:02 PM Reply With Quote
Although not a professional I have painted a few doors in my time, best finish I have managed with quality paint is apply with a gloss roller to get a nice even coat then lay off with a decent brush that has been broken in.

Regards Mark

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Aaron_n_Sim

posted on 16/5/13 at 05:19 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cliftyhanger
Brewers are horribly expensive unless you have a trade account (or can blag a cash sale on somebody elses)

Wickes seem to be stocking Dulux trade stuff now, not sure if everything though.

BTW I have found eggshell paints very good to use. And seem to yellow more slowly than gloss. And more forgiving.

Dulux did have a problem with their paint formulation yellowing very quickly a while ago, it was on one of the consumer programs. It must be sorted by now.


I never got asked to prove I was a decorator when I set up a trade cash account! You just have to nag them for a decent discount, I tell them I'll go to B&Q, they rather discount than lose business!

Aaron

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