pewe
|
| posted on 1/4/15 at 06:56 PM |
|
|
Ryanair: Planes 'clip each other' on the ground at Dublin Airport
So here's a question - will the pilots have to pay Mr O'Leary for the damage or only cover his excess - bet it's somewhere in their
contracts??
Cheers, Pewe10 
|
|
|
|
|
joneh
|
| posted on 1/4/15 at 07:06 PM |
|
|
Probably or more likely the terminal control at the airport...
|
|
|
britishtrident
|
| posted on 1/4/15 at 07:23 PM |
|
|
This type of incident is a lot more commn since airliners grew winglets. The tight schedules and quick turn rounds budget operators work to
don't help. Twenty+ years back I saw the insurance bill resulting from when a contractors vehicle on the apron did very minor looking damaged
to a One-Eleven-500 wing tip,.no change out a million ...most of which was lease cost for the replacement aircraft
[Edited on 1/4/15 by britishtrident]
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
[/I]
|
|
|
hizzi
|
| posted on 1/4/15 at 09:40 PM |
|
|
a friend has just had a final written warning and is suspended from all airside driving duties after towing a boeing aircraft into a lampost, he
dented the winglet and the aircraft was of duty for 18 hours for repair, the bill was £145000 . apparently a very common thing to happen
|
|
|
sdh2903
|
| posted on 2/4/15 at 02:32 AM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by hizzi
a friend has just had a final written warning and is suspended from all airside driving duties after towing a boeing aircraft into a lampost, he
dented the winglet and the aircraft was of duty for 18 hours for repair, the bill was £145000 . apparently a very common thing to happen [/quote,
Was this at EDI by any chance fairly recently? I thought there was some discrepancy with the guide lines painted on the taxi way? And just for the
record the actual cost is way above that figure As it wasnt just dented, it very nearly wrote the winglet off!
[Edited on 2/4/15 by sdh2903]
|
|
|
hizzi
|
| posted on 2/4/15 at 06:05 AM |
|
|
yes that was edinburgh, was the drivers version of events which may be a bit away from the truth right enough
|
|
|
pewe
|
| posted on 2/4/15 at 07:21 AM |
|
|
Years ago we were sat in a full plane at Verona.
Plane was already to leave the stand when there was a flurry of activity up front.
Various fluorescent coated Italians appeared accompanied by thumps and bangs under where we were sitting.
This went on for 15mins at which point the captain disembarked holding a torch.
More whirrs and bangs before he came on saying that the cargo door closure light was on and they couldn't get it to go out.
He said "I can see the latches are closed so we'll fly".
In words which now have a hollow ring he also said "I want to get home as much as you do"!
So we flew but not without many pairs of soiled undies after a steward let go of a trolley during turbulence and it crashed down the aisle....
Some days later ground-staff at Gatwick we disciplined for crashing a baggage truck into an aircraft and not reporting it.....
Cheers, Pewe10
|
|
|
britishtrident
|
| posted on 2/4/15 at 07:25 AM |
|
|
Painting of lines at aircraft stands can be problematic often a stand and associated airbridge will be designed for one aircraft type/size but
aircraft type and subtypes change. One airbridge stand at Glasgow was new completed when they realised that the aircraft type it was designed around
was about to be retired by BA and wouldn't accept the aircraft replacing it, the result was much scratching of heads and apron remarking.
The increasing aircraft weight is also a problem, back in the early 1990's succeeding generations of the B 737 caused problems on some newly
renovated stands on the central pier at GLA.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
[/I]
|
|
|
britishtrident
|
| posted on 2/4/15 at 08:07 AM |
|
|
quote:
Originally posted by pewe
Years ago we were sat in a full plane at Verona.
Plane was already to leave the stand when there was a flurry of activity up front.
Various fluorescent coated Italians appeared accompanied by thumps and bangs under where we were sitting.
This went on for 15mins at which point the captain disembarked holding a torch.
More whirrs and bangs before he came on saying that the cargo door closure light was on and they couldn't get it to go out.
He said "I can see the latches are closed so we'll fly".
In words which now have a hollow ring he also said "I want to get home as much as you do"!
So we flew but not without many pairs of soiled undies after a steward let go of a trolley during turbulence and it crashed down the aisle....
Some days later ground-staff at Gatwick we disciplined for crashing a baggage truck into an aircraft and not reporting it.....
Cheers, Pewe10
A long time back two airport facilities engineering staff were out on an apron doing their morning rounds checking airbridges, fixed ground power
units and the various other bits of kit airports need to function, when they hear a great crash from the next stand. At the next stand an airbridge
had been driven into an aircraft that had just been towed up to the stand. Damage was done to both the aircraft and the airbridge, the two fiitters
get on the radio to the Airport Duty Engineer. The ADE arrived at the scene just in time to see the aircraft Captain stick his head out the door
take a quick look at the damage shake his head then slammed the aircraft door shut and call for push back.
I'm off to Verona next month veru much looking forward to the flight not put off recent events I love flying over the Alps -- real
"jaggy mountains" and wonderful lakes..
Aircraft outbound out is a BA Embraer 190 which is a new type to me making a change from Thompsons old faithful B757s.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
[/I]
|
|
|
sdh2903
|
| posted on 2/4/15 at 08:40 AM |
|
|
Nowt wrong with the old faithful coal burner 757 BT Can still outperform, climb, payload, range most of its newer 'replacements, ive had the
pleasure a few times of a seat in the flight deck doing a full power take off with an empty 757, the closest experience to being in a proper fast
jet, just a shame it has a drink problem compared to the newer stuff!
E190 is a nice aircraft if not a bit noisy.
|
|
|
luke2152
|
| posted on 2/4/15 at 10:17 AM |
|
|
I was involved doing some rescue training on a 747 a few years back and one of the guys put a vehicle mounted ladder into aluminium panel near one of
the doors of the plane. They managed to repair it before it was needed for service but the number of people they had to call out out in the middle of
the night was embarrassing. The used to invite us out to train most months but it was about 6 months til they let us at it again.
|
|
|
britishtrident
|
| posted on 2/4/15 at 11:19 AM |
|
|
The only replacement for a 757 is another 757.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
[/I]
|
|
|
sdh2903
|
| posted on 2/4/15 at 06:30 PM |
|
|
It's a terrible situation when an aircraft gets damaged. Im an aircraft line engineer by trade and have seen some pretty shocking bumps. When it
does happen everyman and his dog wants a look, from the baggage handlers to the airfield fire service. photographs taken assessments made. Reports
filed from the airline and from the company causing the damage. Peoples jobs get put In jeopardy. For instance in the incident above 2 guys had
statements taken and were suspended immediately. it is generally a good reporting culture as it's an instant dismissal if damage not
reported.
The cost to the airline however can be horrific. for instance the above winglet damage. A spare had to be removed from an a/c On long term Maint.
Transported at short notice. A team of engineers called in and taxied To the aircraft, Crane rental on a sat night. A substitute aircraft and full set
of flight crew and cabin crew called in and positioned. I think in the end the Winglet was repaired but a new one is circa $1m
|
|
|
