tegwin
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| posted on 22/1/19 at 07:42 AM |
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Planning and purchasing property
I know a lot of you have experience in this area so curious if anyone can help.
I am looking at buying a small building with a thin strip of outside land. It used to be a garage for a sizeable house. The house is now converted
into apartments and the grounds extensively built on.
From what I can gather the developer is now selling this garage. I think it has potential for use as a tiny little house.
It’s up for auction in a few weeks and I’m tempted to take a punt but if I can’t get PP to change it’s use into a home Id be in trouble.
I’m curious as to why the developer has not done this and perhaps they can’t get permission which is why they are selling... or they don’t see it as
being worth their while as it’s so small.
If they have tried in the past is there any way of knowing and finding out the rejection reasons?
Alternatively is there any way of ascertaining the likelihood of getting PP?
It’d be a financial stretch to buy the place but if it worked out it would be a nice (if tiny) place to live.
Welcome and thoughts?!
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 22/1/19 at 08:04 AM |
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Your council should have a planning register online where you can see planning applications, going back some years.
Our council used to have a free walk-in system for a short planning consultation meeting with a planning officer, and they were helpful (though now
cost and a long appointment times, several weeks at best)
Also speak to the auctioneers, they are usually very helpful and know the background, or get a buyers pack.
But I very much agree, a developer will milk every penny from every opportunity, so that does leave the question why is it being sold.
Another possibility is to consult a local architect with a lot of local knowledge. They will know if planning will be possible. Obviously expect this
to cost...
[Edited on 22/1/19 by cliftyhanger]
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ianhurley20
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| posted on 22/1/19 at 08:13 AM |
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Not sure about your council but most have all the planning applications online along with all letters and other documentation - perhaps the planning
dept online is the first place to look for history of the plot
and after a quick search they are online
https://planning.plymouth.gov.uk/online-applications/
[Edited on 22/1/19 by ianhurley20]
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tegwin
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| posted on 22/1/19 at 08:21 AM |
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Thanks Ian,
The property I’m looking at isn’t in Plymouth but I’m sure the same applies elsewhere.
Il have a dig and see what I can find. I also, as you say, need to speak to the auction house.
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Sam_68
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| posted on 22/1/19 at 08:53 AM |
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I run a combined architectural practice and planning consultancy, with our own Chartered Planner.
If you want to PM me details of the site, I'll check the Planning history and give what advice I can.
...But if it's as small as you imply, it's possible that it's just not been worth the developer's while to do anything with
it.
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russbost
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| posted on 22/1/19 at 09:46 AM |
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As already said, talk to auctioneers & local planning. One reason it may not have been developed by the existing co. could be that with modern
building regs being very different to those that an older garage was built too, it may simply not be a practical economical proposition to do all the
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 22/1/19 at 12:18 PM |
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There are regulations for required parking space, windows looking onto other house that may get in your way
Also check if there are services running under the garage, it may have been a garage for a good reason, sewers, power cables, water mains septic
tanks. Never go on the assumption the ground is empty, you'd be amazed at the amount of services are buried. Check official site
boundary's, these are often not updated and you don't want half you house to be on someone else's garden.
Why do you want a tiny house? could you build a two story house instead, that will increase the value and market for the house while only costing
slightly more. The regulations these days can make house building a real chore.
[Edited on 22/1/19 by Mr Whippy]
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James
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| posted on 22/1/19 at 05:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Also check if there are services running under the garage, it may have been a garage for a good reason, sewers, power cables, water mains septic
tanks. Never go on the assumption the ground is empty, you'd be amazed at the amount of services are buried. Check official site
boundary's, these are often not updated and you don't want half you house to be on someone else's garden.
[Edited on 22/1/19 by Mr Whippy]
Reminds me of our house.
After I stuck a pick through the gas main (9" below the surface in a flower bed!). I got the repairmen to run their 'scanner' over
the drive to see what else was under there. They found 11 different 'lines' towards the house!
Only when we dug up the drive to block pave did we realise that a lot of these were a metal bed frame someone had buried under the concrete! 
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 23/1/19 at 12:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Also check if there are services running under the garage, it may have been a garage for a good reason, sewers, power cables, water mains septic
tanks. Never go on the assumption the ground is empty, you'd be amazed at the amount of services are buried. Check official site
boundary's, these are often not updated and you don't want half you house to be on someone else's garden.
[Edited on 22/1/19 by Mr Whippy]
Reminds me of our house.
After I stuck a pick through the gas main (9" below the surface in a flower bed!). I got the repairmen to run their 'scanner' over
the drive to see what else was under there. They found 11 different 'lines' towards the house!
Only when we dug up the drive to block pave did we realise that a lot of these were a metal bed frame someone had buried under the concrete!
We built 4 houses in a field in-between two rows of houses, unfortunately the water mains for each house was unmarked and scattered randomly across
the site, we had a box of pipe couplings in the digger and a coil of plastic pipe at the ready, it was very annoying. We burst every one of them 
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