Mr Whippy
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| posted on 18/4/22 at 07:49 AM |
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Onsite crane logistics management options???
Hi,
Kinda reaching on this one but there is a very wide range of experience on this site and much of it engineering.
So we have a very large job I've been asked do the planning of part of it. This it is the daily logistics of many (about 20) mobile cranes on
site in a oil refinery during a massive refit over several weeks. It's also complicated by there being a one way traffic flow system that
requires some cranes to be parked to allow others to pass. Tbh I'm struggling to see why I'm even involved in this?, why there is not
someone on site managing this? and to me this is not engineering planning but instead a logistics exercise with some sort of expert in their field
coordinator driving it all.
I can't believe there is not already tools (software) designed specifically for this task but I don't know of any. Personally I'd opt
for a whiteboard with magnets or a T card system, than try to do this in planning software as its the completely the wrong tool for the job and
there's obviously a lot of money riding on this going smoothly. Plus I don't want to be nominated scape goat when it predictably goes awry.
Any idea's or suggestions? thanks in advance.
[Edited on 18/4/22 by Mr Whippy]
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Quinten
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| posted on 18/4/22 at 08:01 AM |
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Is this only for temporary use, or a permanent (past the refit) thing? I work for a company which specialises in software/automation of cranes, but
it's geared towards a permanent solution. Have a look at https://tba.group/en
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 18/4/22 at 09:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Quinten
Is this only for temporary use, or a permanent (past the refit) thing? I work for a company which specialises in software/automation of cranes, but
it's geared towards a permanent solution. Have a look at https://tba.group/en
Hi, thanks for the reply. This is just for this job as it's not our usual kind of work. We're well into cranes but this is not imo
engineering but onsite logistics.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 18/4/22 at 09:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by Quinten
Is this only for temporary use, or a permanent (past the refit) thing? I work for a company which specialises in software/automation of cranes, but
it's geared towards a permanent solution. Have a look at https://tba.group/en
Hi, thanks for the reply. This is just for this job as it's not our usual kind of work. Quite a cool site there, did wonder how they organize all
that at ports etc. but may be a quite bit more than we need for our application sadly.
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perksy
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| posted on 18/4/22 at 10:04 AM |
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Sorry can't help with the issue, but all I'll say is make sure you cover your ass on this from a health & safety perspective
I've represented staff who've been interviewed under caution by the HSE (when things have gone wrong) and its not a nice place to be
Sadly when things do go wrong the blame game starts and senior managers try to pass it down the tree 
Any plan would have to be discussed with your health and safety manager/dept to make sure they are happy
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 18/4/22 at 11:44 AM |
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Oh don't worry, planning never accept responsibility for when things go wrong, we just record it when it does and highlight who's fault it
is 
Just want them to use the correct tools for the job but am not sure what tools are available.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 18/4/22 at 01:27 PM |
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Aircraft carrier flight deck controllers use painted chunks of metal (e.g. nuts and bolts) on a big picture of the deck that has been pasted to a
desk. They move them around according to where the planes & helicopters are at any time.
[Edited on 18/4/22 by David Jenkins]
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 18/4/22 at 02:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Aircraft carrier flight deck controllers use painted chunks of metal (e.g. nuts and bolts) on a big picture of the deck that has been pasted to a
desk. They move them around according to where the planes & helicopters are at any time.
[Edited on 18/4/22 by David Jenkins]
yip simple is often better imo
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Mike Wood
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| posted on 18/4/22 at 03:10 PM |
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Sounds like a railway system of tokens (and signals) that permits only one train on one section of single track at a time.
Cheer
Mike
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nick205
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| posted on 19/4/22 at 02:39 PM |
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Sorry - my post didn't come out!
[Edited on 19/4/22 by nick205]
In short - Iagree with the comments in the post above.
Mr Whippy
Have you asked the crane providers how they do it?
They must be faced with this challenge fairly often.
[Edited on 19/4/22 by nick205]
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gremlin1234
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| posted on 21/4/22 at 02:32 PM |
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I agree its not a planners job, perhaps they will send you on a course to learn how it might be done...
if I were involved with a project like this I would insist all the units have gps trackers fitted, so we can see them in real time.
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