Jon Ison
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| posted on 23/2/06 at 05:08 PM |
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Disco clutch release bearing.........
Not locost I know, and prob not locost too fix but is it a DIY job ?
Prob not due too weight of gearbox ect, Haynes book says engine out is easier, my head says take it some where is easier.....
How long does a squealing release bearing usually last ? not long enough i suppose.....
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oliwb
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| posted on 23/2/06 at 05:49 PM |
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Not sure about on a discovery but the defender you can (just) do with out removing the engine by removing the propshaft and taking the transmission of
it mounts and moving it back.....sort of works (sometimes have to remove seat base) Basically alot easier taking the engine out.....not too big a job
in the scheme of things I would have said....be aswell to change the clutch while your down there though......Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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NigeEss
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| posted on 23/2/06 at 05:55 PM |
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Yep, quite a big job.
On a 200 TDi 90 (not quite a Disco I know) there's enough room to shift the engine forward in the bay so saving a lot of dismantalling and
draining.
If yours is a 300TDi then I don't think this'll work as the engine is already quite forward.
As for how long a squealer will last.....
How long's a piece of string ? (Twice as long as half its length  )
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NigeEss
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| posted on 23/2/06 at 05:57 PM |
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Beat me to it Oli
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Peteff
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| posted on 23/2/06 at 07:58 PM |
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Landie boxes weigh an absolute ton, I wouldn't fancy manouevring one round under the car. The engine in the air sounds an easier proposition,
not as easy as letting somebody else do it though.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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wilkingj
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| posted on 23/2/06 at 08:05 PM |
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Its a days work.. just done mine.
If you are going that far, I would consider chaging the clutch, the bearing, the operating arm, and Pivot Ball.
Look in my archive. My ball and arm were genuine Land Rover, and have done 98k miles. Nearly 1mm worn off the ball. The Arm was nearly through, This
is a common problem with the pressed steel arms.
You dont say what year or if its a 200 / 300 tdi, or even a V8.
V8 has a cast arm, and is not so prone to wear. (Not Interchangeable  )
On the Defender, I would take the floor out (few screws) then Lift the gearbox with a crane through the passenger door. With a Disco, you may need to
support it from below, on a gearbox jack / trolley.
Gearbox weighs in at 200 Lbs ish. NOT something you can take out on your own lying on your back on the drive. You could remove the Transfer Box, and
then the gearbox, to lessen the weight.
I have a new chassis with a removeable gearbox cross member that makes life easier (drop box out the bottom). Check this as well on your Disco.
Lifting it back up is fun
Most manage to separate the engine and box, then shuffle the box back as far as you can then you can just about get in to remove the cover plate. Its
not so easy to align the plate when re assembling.
Unless its a V8, I would change the arm, pivot, release bearing, and the plate and cover. Oh... dont foget to change the 50p Plastic L shaped clip,
and the Slipper pads as well, and probably the plastic clip on the end of the slave cylinder pushrod.
Its up to you, but I know how big a job it is.
Its not difficult (like anything on a Landy), its just BIG, and Damn Heavy!
Do have a look at my archive.. in the viento build area, about halfway down... All pics are labelled up.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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kev R1
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| posted on 23/2/06 at 09:27 PM |
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i'd weld a plate onto the clutch fork aswell, they're always going, the release bearings are the same as the ninety, i believe
there's only one, have you got a bearing jon? i work for 'paddock spares'have a look on there, prices are really good! kev
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 23/2/06 at 10:16 PM |
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I think I'm ok for parts prices, son works at an auto factors, will look at the fork didnt know it was a weak point on them, and yes agree with
you all, if i'm going that far in then its a new clutch too, so is it engine forward and poss out, or gearbox out ? I think i'm leaning
towards pulling the engine out, shame about the weather doh.
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kev R1
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| posted on 24/2/06 at 05:49 PM |
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asked a guy at work today jon he syas it's the only real way to do it by taking it out,he reckons it's quicker to take the engine out but
seems a bit severe to me. borg and beck clutch kit with release bearing £59.50+ vat,kev
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wilkingj
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| posted on 26/2/06 at 09:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kev R1
asked a guy at work today jon he syas it's the only real way to do it by taking it out,he reckons it's quicker to take the engine out but
seems a bit severe to me. borg and beck clutch kit with release bearing £59.50+ vat,kev
I agree... but dont forget the plastic clips etc. Its not worth messing about.. fit new ones for the cost which is peanuts.
Got my clutch from Paddocks, good service over the years.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 26/2/06 at 10:01 PM |
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We had a post about this a while ago,I said then that the best way for the DIY'er (in my opinion ) is to take the fan,rad and cowling out and
swing the engine forward.
you disconnect the engine mounts but leave the wiring and fuel pipes connected.
I used to specialise in landies and Disco's for a living so I have done quite a few of these.
As said before you must have the gearbox mounting cradle or make one to drop the box.The weight is not central and the side mounted transfer box tries
to roll the box as you undo it.
And its VERY heavy.
You have about 7" to get in which is OK.
Use the Borg and beck clutch and NOT the Landy genuine one.
The B&B clutches dont collapse on the fingers as easy as the original Valeo ones and are much lighter on the pedal.
Dean.....
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 2/3/06 at 05:24 PM |
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I went for the "easy option" in end, fitted for the cost of a locsot including new fork, I'm happy with the deal anyway.
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