donut
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 03:43 PM |
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What would you do if............
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The government and Europe are only going to try to make our building lives harder or maybe even stop our hobby (or career in manufacturers cases!!!)
altogether if they can so we should keep a unified front if at all possible.
A point on another thread there by James which made me think.........
If the government stopped us building our cars by making the SVA so bloomin tough and expensive that it would be almost impossible to get any car
through, What would you do?
Would you buy a 2nd hand locost or kit car already registered or give up or what?
Would the price of our type of car go up?
Your thoughts...
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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smart51
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 04:00 PM |
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Those manufacturers who wanted to stay in business would make their cars complient with the tougher regulations. This may lead to cars having small
volume type aproval and the builder having to assemble a car with a limited, specified list of optional parts. This might stop scratch built cars,
unless a group of builders paid for low volume type aproval between them and build almost identical cars. It might be possible for one of the locost
parts suppliers to get type aproval for a genuine locost and allow builders to buy enough parts from them to qualify for inclusion.
It might also push companies to make only turn key cars, stopping self build.
Low volume specialist cars won't stop, they might just get fewer in number and more expensive to buy.
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Howlor
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 04:02 PM |
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Move! I suppose the only way then to get cars through a very rigid SVA test would be to have virtually a type approved kit where you have to buy
everything from the manufacturer and just assemble it. Very little room for your own input to design etc.
Each kit would then be exactly the same.
Ah yes they call it a Ford Focus.
So the answer therefore is as I started, MOVE!
steve
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Dutchman
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 04:03 PM |
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sindicate and strike , make demonstration ther are bunch of people that will follow you ...
we change goverment like that it took few years but ... you are democratic country maybe thay will listen
Tarzan English with foreign accent!
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flak monkey
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 04:04 PM |
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No doubt there would be some sort of concession for those already building (as there was when the SVA test originally came in).
However it would be a nightmare for people who did want to build from scratch...
Perhaps it would require some sort of type approval for the manufacturers which would allow them to carry on in a way similar to Ariel or TVR? I can
see that becoming a reality before too long... 
Who knows? I for one would be glad I am started and any major changes would have much effect. But if I wasnt then I would probably try to buy a half
finished one, or one thats already registered. Mind you, as you say the price would probably go up rather steeply.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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JoelP
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 04:08 PM |
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i would just modify existing kitcars. They would never get scrapped as the v5 would be too valuble!
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 04:27 PM |
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is it me this government is like Sven Gorn Eriksonn and a few others
they do jack shite jack shite lie lie lie etc etc cause nothing but problems
and everyone keeps voting them in!!!!!!
problem is no one sticks up for themselves in this country anymore
make your money and move abroad
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suparuss
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 05:19 PM |
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we have to keep voting them because there is no better alternative. the closest we'd get to relative freedom would be the BNP which the
government knows all too well hence the regular bad publicity the bbc puppets keep broadcasting about them. and major events tend to coincide with
general elections.
personally i think guy falks had the right idea.
why do we put with them? we all know theyre a bunch of lying weasles yet we let them run OUR country.
what reason do they give for making kit car building harder? whats wrong with the current system?
if it gets harder then a lot of people (that is, a few more than usual) are going to be assesing the country they live in against all the others
available and the odds dont look good for "great" britain.
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JonBowden
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 05:25 PM |
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I would have thought that all users of this sight would get themselves to downing street and chain themselves (and their cars) to the railings.
I'm not joking - I've waited more than 20 years to build my own car. If the government made this not possible, I would be SERIOUSLY pissed
off.
Jon
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donut
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 05:32 PM |
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quote:
I would have thought that all users of this sight would get themselves to downing street and chain themselves (and their cars) to the railings.
I wonder how many over heated, stranded kit cars there would be in and arround london steaming away 
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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donut
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 06:09 PM |
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I thought that in france you could not have the exhaust sticking out anywhere on the car?
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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DIY Si
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 08:19 PM |
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On a similar line, I heard from a friend of mine recently that the Gov't is thinking of introducing a rather expesnsive torsional stress based
assesment to the sva. Anyone know much about this? Or is it, as i hope, complete ar*e?
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Simon
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 08:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dutchman
... you are democratic country maybe thay will listen
Dutchman,
I think you are under some illusion there I'm afraid.
Our beloved PM is currently trying to obtain powers from parliament which would give him more or less the same sort of authority as some other
arrogant egotistical loony, currently on trial in Iraq.
As for move, I think not. Unlike certain parts of the world where no-one seems to have the nuts to stand up for what they believe right (ie not
what the government has in mind) and where everyone seems intent on coming here, I think the idea would be to rebel somewhat.
Out with the Illuminati, in with me
ATB
Simon (Guy Fawkes Appreciation Society)
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 1/3/06 by Simon]
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muzchap
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| posted on 1/3/06 at 10:56 PM |
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Hey don't compare Tony B to the illuminati!
They were a 'noble' bunch
Tony B is just an idiot - plain and simple. If you thing George Bush is stupid - how stupid is Blair by being his puppet :-(
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