Mansfield
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| posted on 1/7/06 at 10:18 PM |
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Sven's last game, thank f**k
The only consolation I can take from the valiant defeat tonight is the halfwit Mr Eriksson is no longer in charge of our national team.
Best squad we have had in years, half of the team would grace any team in the world, but we played like tw***s.
I thought Owen Hargreaves had some damming pictures (there must be plenty around) of Sven, because he has won about 30 caps and has done nothing.
Turns out if you ask him to do what he does naturally - he is a genius.
So many players wasted out of position, its criminal.
Whether you like football or not, success at this tournament can lift and unite this country. The guy had a responsibilty to give us a run for our
money.
Ronaldo - cute or unsportsmanlike, Rooney - unluckly or violent, it doesn't affect the cause. Sven was way off with his 'plan' and
I am glad to see the back of him.
P.S. Apologies to Owen Hargreaves - I didn't know you were a vital piece of the jigsaw while I slagged you off for your last 30 caps.
[Edited on 1/7/06 by Mansfield]
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JoelP
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| posted on 1/7/06 at 10:19 PM |
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i was well impressed with hargreaves 
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Mansfield
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| posted on 1/7/06 at 10:22 PM |
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I couldn't believe how well Hargreaves played, apparently he does that all the time for his club.
Paul Scholes quit England because he couldn't get a game in his natural postion. He was still first choice for Man U (pre horrible injury).
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 1/7/06 at 10:42 PM |
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Boring Boring Boring
apart from tonights game which I really wanted them to win which was entertaining
SVen is obsessed with DEFENSIVE football
and its like watching paint dry
why werent the likes of Aaron lennon and Owen Hargreaves used all the way through both are Entertainers which is what we need
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gazza285
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| posted on 1/7/06 at 10:57 PM |
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Sven was good at league football, that might work fine over a season but the WC is all about winning, like the FA Cup. Best midfield in the world,
yeah, apart from they are all out of position with their club roles.
No disrespect to Owen, but why take the risk? And Rooney to a similar degree. Crouch? Walcott? Lennon? Hardly proven Premiership talent, let alone
internationally. Sven's an arse, but he can pull the birds for his age and looks.
DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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gazza285
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| posted on 1/7/06 at 11:18 PM |
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He's not cheap either.
DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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brynhamlet
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 06:10 AM |
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If you want to unite England use a English guy, not a foreigner
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scotty g
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 07:09 AM |
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Have to agree with many of the above posts, Hargreaves was man of the match for me.
The biggest irony was that i think England played their best game so far but managed to lose!
As soon as it went to penalties i knew it was all over.
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fesycresy
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 07:11 AM |
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Sam Allardyce should have got the job not McLaren.
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The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.
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bob
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 07:49 AM |
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I was wondering if the players will come out now sven has gone,give their verdict on the way sven wanted them to play.
Although i couldnt understand why the players didnt mutiny and sort it themselves,although with one striker on the pitch and five midfielders it was a
problem.
Will Mclaren be any different ?
He may have a few words to say himself
[Edited on 2/7/06 by bob]
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Hellfire
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 posted on 2/7/06 at 08:08 AM |
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My lad (aged 10)....
said to me following the Brazil v France match "Dad, can I buy a Brazil shirt?" When asked why a Brazil shirt his simple reply was
"they play brilliantly". After a brief conversation about patriotism and support he was adamant that a Brazil shirt was his choice. I
can't blame him really Sven's style of football I guess reflects his personality, stodgy, methodical, logistical but inevitably boring.
Look at the semi-finalists, France, Portugal, Spain etc they all play football that the premierships play! England should be there in the semi's
but they aren't because they are made to play "different" from there premiership/european strategy.
I hope the players keep quiet and not slag Sven off, it will do no good at all. Though someone somewhere either a friend or relation of a player will
get the inevitable scoop. It's sad that probably the best chance of winning the World Cup has now passed us by, there is always the next when
perhaps Rooney has matured, Lennon has prooved himself, Beckham is no longer in the squad, Owen is fit etc etc
Put it down to experience... maybe a new manager will inject that much needed passion and flair and then maybe we can finally lift what we should have
lifted this year. Roll on the European and next World Cup.
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cossey
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 08:42 AM |
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brazil were fairly poor, although not as bad as england. france on the other hand are now playing some very good football.
germany-france final looks interesting though
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jon_boy
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 09:18 AM |
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I thought france would peak soon. Lennon has had a great season with spurs and its a shame he wasnt played more throughout the tournament, and its
almost a shame they didnt give walcott a kick about for a bit. Ah well. I hope germany win now, they are the only team i could take the gloating from!
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viatron
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 09:23 AM |
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Wonder if Renaldos transfer request is in yet? Wouldnt want to be him in the Man U dressing room during pre season training!!
Mac
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joneh
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 09:57 AM |
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I think we have an excellent team, we're just shite at taking penalties and there's very little flair. We need to play brazilian
football.
I think Hargreaves played well, and you can't fault Ferdinand or Terry. Lampard was off form for the whole event, we were very unlucky to lose
owen so quick. And wayne "shreck" rooney is too immature sometimes.
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 10:32 AM |
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IMHO. Personally I thought that it was funny the way that as soon as both Becham AND Rooney were off, the rest of the players started playing like a
team, finding quite a few holes in portugals defense. Especially Lennon.
PS. is it only cynical me that thinks Theo Walcot doesn't actually exist and is/was purely a figment of Svens imagination so that he could make
more money out of this last series of matches.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 10:40 AM |
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Biggest mystery for me was why play for extra time and penalties like the Commentators etc were suggesting Sven would do?
Surely when its 0-0 you should be playing for the winning goal in the last Minute of the game cos thats the only minute you can win it in!
Although they were a man down they should have thrown every little last bit at em in the last 5-10 mins instead of defending and hanging on for a draw
and extra time.
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 10:41 AM |
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Hear, Hear. The defense is offence.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 11:36 AM |
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Calm down lads...
It's only a game...
In the great scheme of things it doesn't matter a toss...
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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martyn_16v
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| posted on 2/7/06 at 10:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by joneh
I think Hargreaves played well, and you can't fault Ferdinand or Terry.
Sums up Englands whole world cup really, I mean if the centre-backs and defensive midfielder are your most notable players then somethings gone wrong,
you've spent all of your time under the kosh. Just don't get Sven's thinking at all really, in the press conferences he was hyping
up how we'd win it, and we'll see more attractive football, but his decisions negate any chance of that happening at all (unless
it's the opposition doing the attractive bit). Odd 
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