mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 01:33 PM |
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Any SMART experts about?
Bad week last week>>>> Two of our cars have been crashed into by a six month old PUG and with the van I smacked into those pesky
carpark poles tearing up the front wing. 
Need a small car to replace the other so was looking at smarts.....found one needing a head gasket replaced Is it hard to do? Recon engines near
Rotherham are 600 quid...+- .
LOVE THEM OR HATE EM MARMITE
[Edited on 14-11-06 by mangogrooveworkshop]
[Edited on 28-11-06 by mangogrooveworkshop]
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nitram38
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 01:40 PM |
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If you are going to change the engine, stick a bike engine in!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 02:11 PM |
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I can get you details of a chap who will know.
The fella that I bought my pair of 126's off at the weekend also has a pair of smarts (a city and a roadster) as well as loads of other
interesting small cars.
He commented that the very tidy looking smart city that he had only set him back £900, which surprised me!!! Apparently it was a trade-in at his local
dealership.
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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nitram38
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 02:22 PM |
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Not so much a bike mantra, but it will fit and scare the pants off you!
There are some videos on youtube with a smart with 1100 gsxr.
To say it is quick, is an understatement!
[Edited on 14/11/2006 by nitram38]
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smart51
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 02:40 PM |
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I've owned two smarts and am a member of the smart club. I've never heard of a head gasket failure.
Smart dealers are widely know not to repair engines but only replce them as a whole. with most smarts that fail, the turbo is the bit that goes.
I've seen pictures of a melted block too.
The top of the engine is easy access from the boot of the car but there isn't a lot of room in the engine bay. The rear panel just unbolts so
access is prety good. The whole rear subframe can supposedly be dropped out with just 4 bolts.
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Marcus
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 04:12 PM |
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I love 'em. Wifey's got one, an early lefty uk model. The only problem is parking at Tescos - you have to take a ticket - she's on
the wrong side, so shops at Sainsburys!
They go quite well, have 6 gears, you can fit a weeks camping stuff in one, do nearly 60mpg, 85mph (but you can de restrict them), glass roof, air
con, ABS, EBD, Traction control - the lot!
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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JackNco
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 05:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
If you are going to change the engine, stick a bike engine in!
I cant think of a more embarrassing way to die. the smarts not exactly known for its handling the last thing it needs is more power.
Good practical city cars i guess. i love how you can park them sideways! but i wouldn't have one. how the smart roadster coupe is a different
story. THAT is a car that would do well with a tuned hayabusa engine
John
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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Marcus
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 05:31 PM |
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Granted, they are a little bit understeery with the narrow 145 section tyres on the front, but they're not as bad as you may think - they have
quite a low c of g - all mechanicals below floor level, they're VERY safe due to the steel 'tridion' construction, they have twin
airbags.
I'd rather have a crash is a Smart than a Corsa, Lupo, Ka etc.
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 05:32 PM |
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any one know how heavy smart roadsters are?
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JackNco
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 05:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
any one know how heavy smart roadsters are?
I THINK they are about 900kg but im not entirely sure. but im sure i herd that somewhere
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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JackNco
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 05:40 PM |
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I wounder how feasible it would be to stick a bike engine in one? And if insurance might come down even further as its a none turbo one? - sorry
thread hijack here
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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iank
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 06:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
any one know how heavy smart roadsters are?
Google says 815kg
http://www.supercars.de/singlecar/146/525.html
Wikipedia has "as low as" 790kg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_roadster
[Edited on 14/11/06 by iank]
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JackNco
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 06:09 PM |
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Come to think of it i think i got that from a top gear report on the brabus v6 bi-turbo they did so i guess i would be wrong.
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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akumabito
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 07:42 PM |
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Smart with a bike engine - The Video
I'm still grinning ear to ear from seeing that
[Edited on 14/11/06 by akumabito]
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 12:00 AM |
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Its a replacement car for the the trip to uni five miles down the town. But yes the bike engine will happen in the next one.
The engines are cheapish so I im not worried there. Just have to tow it back if I get it.
The youngster starts driving this year so we looked at insurance group 1 to 3 less than 37 quid a month. The larger cars were a whopping 1800 quid for
her first year so both are students that funny money was ruled out. besides parking at the uni is a ball a***e and they can park in the spot thats
always to small for normal cars...
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JackNco
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 12:04 AM |
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smarts idea for that, i knwo a student that had one, although she coudlnt park her friends always could find a place for it
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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britishtrident
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 11:39 AM |
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bloody car park poles I hate em, they even don't show up very well on parking sonar.
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iank
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 11:50 AM |
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There was a guy who'd done £2k+ worth of damage to his car on a car park pole (one of the low ones) in the body shop when I took my wifes car in
for a new bumper. Apparently the drive through space wasn't...
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NS Dev
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 12:55 PM |
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saw a smart city with a hayabusa turbo in it a couple of years back, but not recently.
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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coolfart
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 04:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
saw a smart city with a hayabusa turbo in it a couple of years back, but not recently.
Hi from a Smart based nutter....the GSXR smartsuki is available from County Motors in Cheltenham...conversion is about £9k onto the price of a car!
Makes it very entertaining to drive! Handling is not a problem, I have a smart with a normal engine (remapped, big turbo etc about 90bhp)...which has
lowered suspension & 205 tyres front & rear....it DOES go round corners!!!
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stevebubs
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 04:36 PM |
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Evil Twin
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Simon
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 07:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coolfart
quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
saw a smart city with a hayabusa turbo in it a couple of years back, but not recently.
Hi from a Smart based nutter....the GSXR smartsuki is available from County Motors in Cheltenham...conversion is about £9k onto the price of a car!
Makes it very entertaining to drive! Handling is not a problem, I have a smart with a normal engine (remapped, big turbo etc about 90bhp)...which has
lowered suspension & 205 tyres front & rear....it DOES go round corners!!!
£9 grand. They're having a laugh I'm afraid.
ATB
Simon
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Smart_monkey
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| posted on 27/11/06 at 09:30 AM |
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Saw you post over on the smart forum, you can pick up for2's for couple of K's in running state. fun to drive easy to modify all panels
can be swapped in a morning if you get bored of the colour, dents push back out, cheap and economical to run recon engines can be purchased around
£700. Ideal student runaround. Coolfarts for2 is an excellent example of what can be done. If you want a bit of fun the roadster is the one to go for
remap it, performance parts and you can get close to the indy with a roof, reverse and sound system : ) Downside expensive to insure if your a
student.
Suggest independent dealers for service etc much cheaper than Mercedes and better service.
Checkout this website for roadster information :
http://www.theroadster.net
or for smart technical stuff : http://www.evilution.co.uk
[Edited on 27/11/06 by Smart_monkey]
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 28/11/06 at 12:10 AM |
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Thanks for the info
Got a red one for 2.2 k with 40 thou and mot till next august running with no probs....
figured we need a runner now as I have a hand with broken fingers to work wit h at the moment. When dad comes back from South Africa he wants a yellow
one!
All of the fleet will be sub 1 litre.........except for the van but thats paid for by the cable co.
got a small trip back from portsmouth this wed......want to do an economy run so watch this space for mpg
JUST LIKE MARMITE LOVE EM OR HATE EM¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
quote:
Originally posted by Smart_monkey
Saw you post over on the smart forum, you can pick up for2's for couple of K's in running state. fun to drive easy to modify all panels
can be swapped in a morning if you get bored of the colour, dents push back out, cheap and economical to run recon engines can be purchased around
£700. Ideal student runaround. Coolfarts for2 is an excellent example of what can be done. If you want a bit of fun the roadster is the one to go for
remap it, performance parts and you can get close to the indy with a roof, reverse and sound system : ) Downside expensive to insure if your a
student.
Suggest independent dealers for service etc much cheaper than Mercedes and better service.
Checkout this website for roadster information :
http://www.theroadster.net
or for smart technical stuff : http://www.evilution.co.uk
[Edited on 27/11/06 by Smart_monkey]
[Edited on 28-11-06 by mangogrooveworkshop]
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