Printable Version | Subscribe | Add to Favourites
New Topic New Poll New Reply
Author: Subject: OT moving master home phone socket
ned

posted on 27/11/06 at 02:36 PM Reply With Quote
OT moving master home phone socket

Getting sky+ installed on monday and need a phone socket in the front room. Not keen on them nailing clips for an extension line around the skirting board so looking at running my own extension hidden somehow or moving the 'master' phone socket.

What's the score with this then? The master socket has the lower section that is only meant to be fiddled with by a qualified engineer iirc but it can only be telephone wire connected to the correct terminals surely?

The existing master socket casing is cracked/damaged and needs resiting/refitting anyway so would be good to know how to do this before I plough ahead with it.

cheers,

Ned.





beware, I've got yellow skin

View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
mackei23b

posted on 27/11/06 at 02:43 PM Reply With Quote
Could always get a wireless adaptor and save on the cables?
View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
mookaloid

posted on 27/11/06 at 02:51 PM Reply With Quote
I had my sky+ installed in my new house a week or two ago.

There is no telephone socket anywhere near my telly so the sky installer offered to charge me £120 for a wireless thingy which did the trick.

I said I would provide a socket after he had gone........

Oddly I have not got round to nailing a wire round the skirting board yet and they can't look at my box remotely to see what I have been watching

It still works too!

I would suggest running a temporary extension lead to your telly for when the installer is there and unplug it when he has gone.

The only (very minor) downside is that the interactive stuff won't work - as in 'press the red button now' so we can relieve you of more cash

Cheers

Mark





"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."


View User's Profile E-Mail User View All Posts By User U2U Member
James

posted on 27/11/06 at 03:50 PM Reply With Quote
Potentially a very tasty car nearly finished sitting in the garage..... a house to renovate.... and he buys Sky+......


Oh Neddy, Neddy, Neddy! (Shakes Head Smiley)

[Edited on 27/11/06 by James]





------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights." - Muhammad Ali

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
Hellfire

posted on 27/11/06 at 04:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
I had my sky+ installed in my new house a week or two ago.

There is no telephone socket anywhere near my telly so the sky installer offered to charge me £120 for a wireless thingy which did the trick.

I said I would provide a socket after he had gone........

Oddly I have not got round to nailing a wire round the skirting board yet and they can't look at my box remotely to see what I have been watching

It still works too!

I would suggest running a temporary extension lead to your telly for when the installer is there and unplug it when he has gone.

The only (very minor) downside is that the interactive stuff won't work - as in 'press the red button now' so we can relieve you of more cash

Cheers

Mark


It also wont update... the system has just been updated to provide better menu's and such! Plus as CalvinX says... you are in breach of your contract for the first year.

Steve






View User's Profile Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
mookaloid

posted on 27/11/06 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mackei23b
Could always get a wireless adaptor and save on the cables?


Ok I am learning here

Where can one get these wireless adaptors but not have to pay £120???





"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."


View User's Profile E-Mail User View All Posts By User U2U Member
BenB

posted on 27/11/06 at 04:56 PM Reply With Quote
Can't you just plug it in once a month whilst you watch Antiques Roadshow on a Sunday evening and leave it unplugged the rest of the time?? Should get upgrades too....
View User's Profile Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
ned

posted on 27/11/06 at 04:57 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James
Potentially a very tasty car nearly finished sitting in the garage..... a house to renovate.... and he buys Sky+......


Oh Neddy, Neddy, Neddy! (Shakes Head Smiley)

[Edited on 27/11/06 by James]

Doubting Jim,

since she moved out I have been working near flat out on the house. New bathroom is the current project followed in the new year by the boiler. The car is a luxury/hobby and I can't prioritise that over the house which I am now paying all the mortgage for!

Yes it is agonisingly close but that's life.

And before you say "but you'll be paying x a month for sky.." I am getting the broadband to replace my current provider so will only effectively cost me £10 month which as I'll be saving money staying in and not going out will eassily pay for itself. Not that I have to justify myself to you

Anyway, how can I replace the damaged master box and move it if I want? The wireless doo dah is a good idea but in any event I want to replace the damaged master phone socket casing and fix it back to the wall it is currently hanging off!

Ned.





beware, I've got yellow skin

View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
whitestu

posted on 27/11/06 at 05:08 PM Reply With Quote
Just buy a new master socket from Maplins and move it.

It's really easy to do - I've had cause to move both my phone sockets over the years and never had a problem.

Stu

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
pdw709

posted on 27/11/06 at 05:32 PM Reply With Quote
I'm using a cheap BT £50 wireless phone socket for my SKY+ box and it works fine...

Phil

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
steve m

posted on 27/11/06 at 06:28 PM Reply With Quote
Ive been on sky for years, (ever since the premiership has been on there)

and have never had my sky box wired in.

however, now and then i have plugged an extension lead in, draped across the carpet and left it to its own devices, over night so the stupid thing can talk with the mother ship

mind you "now and then" last time i did it
Crystal Palace were in the premiership !!!

next time i do it will be years and years away

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
James

posted on 27/11/06 at 07:16 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CaLviNx

he he he

The unplugged story will only work so long as you, are contracted to have the line plugged in so they can check on your viewing habits, and sell the info to companies that send you crap through the mail....

And if they cant get that info technically your in breach of contract and eventually if you fail to be connect-able, they will charge you for it.. i know been there done that, even though my line was fully working they tried to charge me saying it wasn't, even a nice letter from debt collection agency too...



Christ!

Yet another reason not to bother with non-terrestrial telly!

Thankyou Mark for re-inforcing my resolve if it have ever weakened in that direction!

I can't wait till they switch all channels to digital.... I'm way to lazy to bother buying a digi-box!

No more life wasted in front of the idiot box! Yippeeeee!

Cheers,
James





------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights." - Muhammad Ali

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
ruskino80

posted on 27/11/06 at 07:17 PM Reply With Quote
the incoming line is only 2 wires-simply extend them.job done cost 50p
View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
Hellfire

posted on 27/11/06 at 09:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ruskino80
the incoming line is only 2 wires-simply extend them.job done cost 50p


Dead easy - just make sure you isolate the supply. Oh hang on... can you do that?






View User's Profile Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
JoelP

posted on 27/11/06 at 09:17 PM Reply With Quote
its only 50v isnt it?! Nowt worse than a few dancing lessons.
View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
steve m

posted on 27/11/06 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
9v is registered on my line
View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
phoenix70

posted on 27/11/06 at 10:23 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
Just buy a new master socket from Maplins and move it.

It's really easy to do - I've had cause to move both my phone sockets over the years and never had a problem.

Stu


Techically you can't buy a BT master socket from Maplin, you'll find the only people that have BT master sockets are BT (They have a special logo on them, that you cannot buy anywhere else). and moving the master socket would breach your agreement with BT and could find yourself in hot water.

Best idea is to wire an extension off the master socket.

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
ned

posted on 28/11/06 at 12:25 AM Reply With Quote
Can anyone provide me a link to this maplin part?
And if I want to do it properly do I raise a fault for a fully functioning phoneline for bt to come and replace the box and being a working line how long is that likely to take and how much are they gonna take me for?!!

Or do I get hectic, smash the box completely, say it was an accident and place a fault with a non functioning line?

Had a quick squiz on bt's website and no info other than fault reporting as far as i can see..

Ned.

[Edited on 28/11/06 by ned]





beware, I've got yellow skin

View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
ned

posted on 28/11/06 at 09:14 AM Reply With Quote
still digging, found this pattern master socket as mentioned earlier:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=889&criteria=telephone%20socket&doy=28m11

and just found the people that make them for bt, but seems the min order is 200 of em, that's if they'd even sell them to a private customer:
http://www.austin-taylor.co.uk/pages/nte5.htm

background reading for anyone interested in phone sockets!:
http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wiring/UK_telephone/uk_telephone.html

[Edited on 28/11/06 by ned]





beware, I've got yellow skin

View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
ned

posted on 28/11/06 at 02:19 PM Reply With Quote
If anyone's still interested I just rung BT to ask them and to send an engineer out to replace the box is a minimum £135.13 which includes upto the first hours work, if I wanted it moved and it took longer it would be extra.

I can't believe that for a trained engineer this is more than a 5 minute job and the part must cost under a fiver so to me this seems a little extortionate?!

Ned.





beware, I've got yellow skin

View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
chockymonster

posted on 28/11/06 at 02:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve m
mind you "now and then" last time i did it
Crystal Palace were in the premiership !!!

next time i do it will be years and years away


PT will get us back up there (eventually)!





PLEASE NOTE - Responses on Forum Threads may contain Sarcasm and may not be suitable for the hard of Thinking.

View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member

New Topic New Poll New Reply


go to top






Website design and SEO by Studio Montage

All content © 2001-16 LocostBuilders. Reproduction prohibited
Opinions expressed in public posts are those of the author and do not necessarily represent
the views of other users or any member of the LocostBuilders team.
Running XMB 1.8 Partagium [© 2002 XMB Group] on Apache under CentOS Linux
Founded, built and operated by ChrisW.